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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakuno View Post
    I mean about his combat abilities in general + "oh yeah, because it's Berserker he has this useless skill (Bravery) and Noble Phantasm, wait for the set of Berserkers with their abilities not being sealed"
    If not for his 11 lives it would be the guy who hits hard but because this class it could be shot down by many ways, "lol the greatest hero of Greece"

    Also "btw some attacks can take down more than 1 life"

    At least that's how I see it
    well to be fair i think its the attack cancel that did most of the jobs, not 11 lives

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakuno View Post
    Yeah, but you see, even many other Heroic Spirits were summoned in that class and still didn't get sealed abilities (Lancelot is kinda close but at least For Someone's Glory can be used in this class at cost of 1 CS). Or Servants like Lu Bu with God Force didn't have that problem and many other Berserkers having the same Rank of ME as Herk.


    I could let pass the Ark killing him completely but since Caliburn every hypothetical battle is like "But this X attack it could obliterate Herk with one shot"
    didnt lu bu's bravery and red hare also got sealed

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldeayeah View Post
    Clearly Gil is full attacking Herc every turn, while Herc is using his main action to regenerate and his move action to keep on advancing, duh.
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    I dislike that I can play Six Degrees of Separation with Shirou and connect him to anyone in Nasuverse, save for character from Notes and that one short story about the princess that wouldn't marry that dandy prince.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bird of Hermes View Post
    My point being women were consistently screwed over in the story arc of Zero while the likes of Iskander had the ground he walked on worshipped and all his faults ignored.

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    It's rather misogynistic in hindsight
    I get called names on this site sometimes, but I'm pretty sure that's just what Urobuchi is. I've always felt that the entire 'Marie Curie was a meguca' thing was sexist as fuck because it strongly implies women cannot accomplish anything without literally magic, and selling their soul to the devil stand-in.

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    Ohh, so

    Iskander : a king should do what he or she wants

    Gil: she IS doing what she want, you twat

    Like that?
    See, on the other hand, I thought this was handled elegantly using the Excalibur scene. Saber has this 'sword of purity and being literally right' that exemplifies the solitude of perfection and everyone that looks at it instantly realizes that the person couldn't possibly hold it without being incredibly awesome. Iskandar realizes that neither he or Gilgamesh could ever wield a sword like that, and by extension have a kingly character like Arturia has, because they could never move past their character flaws. He realizes he was kind of wrong, without Saber realizing she is kind of right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratman View Post
    I get called names on this site sometimes, but I'm pretty sure that's just what Urobuchi is. I've always felt that the entire 'Marie Curie was a meguca' thing was sexist as fuck because it strongly implies women cannot accomplish anything without literally magic, and selling their soul to the devil stand-in.
    Well, if you want to go that far, you may also say that Urobuchi thinks of women as abomination, looking at how he made a Ctulhu monster masquerading as a girl.


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    Actually Madoka is a treatise against progressivism particularly in the way it paints the effort to stop "entropy" (heat aka global warming) as a moral abomination enacted by beings who only care about abstract data (science) and not people. It's a political argument, not a gendered one.

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    Actually Madoka is a scathing critique on the Faustian nature of the idol industry and how young impressionable girls are scooped up in moments of weakness, mercilessly abused and worked to the bone to drain them of everything they have while showing them off in frilly outfits for the pleasure of the public, and then cast aside the moment they are too old or have nothing left to give - as indicated by the common slang for an undesirably aged woman: witch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakuno View Post
    [...] but since Caliburn every hypothetical battle is like "But this X attack it could obliterate Herk with one shot"
    It's important to note that Caliburn only killed Herakles for good after he had already lost (5? 6? Can't remember) lives to Archer, so it's not an automatic assumption that any beamsword on that level can take away all his 12 lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post

    Actually Madoka is a scathing critique on the Faustian nature of the idol industry and how young impressionable girls are scooped up in moments of weakness, mercilessly abused and worked to the bone to drain them of everything they have while showing them off in frilly outfits for the pleasure of the public, and then cast aside the moment they are too old or have nothing left to give - as indicated by the common slang for an undesirably aged woman: witch.
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    That time they checked out that hot guy they were just admiring his watch, yeah?


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    But how does entropy play into that?

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    the idols eternal youth lets the consumer forget about the slowly encroaching end of themselves and everything they care about with no regard for the idols personal suffering

    thematically lovecraftian 10/10 uro
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerEmiya View Post
    I dislike that I can play Six Degrees of Separation with Shirou and connect him to anyone in Nasuverse, save for character from Notes and that one short story about the princess that wouldn't marry that dandy prince.
    After experimentation, I think that says more about Tōko's cross-franchise appearances than Shirō's. Most of my links to the outlying areas of TM go through her.

    Also, Notes is easy:

    Shirō has a puppet body from -> Tōko is sister to -> Aoko is sensei to -> Tōno kills things alongside -> Sion wields Black Barrel like -> Gun God (-> any other Notes character).
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    Weird romanisation of names.

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    Macrons are superior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seika View Post
    After experimentation, I think that says more about Tōko's cross-franchise appearances than Shirō's. Most of my links to the outlying areas of TM go through her.

    Also, Notes is easy:

    Shirō has a puppet body from -> Tōko is sister to -> Aoko is sensei to -> Tōno kills things alongside -> Sion wields Black Barrel like -> Gun God (-> any other Notes character).
    Shirou's also only two degrees away from Zelretch, which means he's bascly got full access to the multiverse. If anything, Luvia's better connected than he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seika View Post
    Macrons are superior.
    I'd agree except Sōjūrō looks weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    I'd agree except Sōjūrō looks weird.
    You mean great.
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    No, weird, because I couldn't get word wrapping to work right with unicode characters so it comes out as Sō
    jūrō.

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    It has been written in far weirder ways during its romanisation lifetime.
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