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[just Beamu]

Yes, really. I thought it was pretty normal for people to not kill themselves over elections.

perhaps not usually but in this instance

[Snow]

As just said, I think it's sad and reactionary but a perception that enough people in your country hate you to have this happen in spite of everything.

But still, even if it meant everybody who voted for Trump wants you dead (which I believe is not the case), wouldn't you still value your own life over the opinions of others?

[I3uster]

you might be surprised by this but acutely suicidal people often dont think very rationally

[kotelo]

Like, seriously? Overreacting up to suicide about a goddamn election?

Maybe this is mainly happening (if it's actually happening) on young people over losing the election. When you're young you feel and think you can do anything, so when things actually don't go like you planned, I guess this is a shortcut to run away from the situation. But yeah this shouldn't even be a thing if you're an adult.

[Snow]

you might be surprised by this but acutely suicidal people often dont think very rationally

Sorry, and I'm probably wrong, but itc I got the impression it was directly caused by the election, not by people already struggling with such thoughts. In the latter case I understand how this could affect them ofc.

[I3uster]

I don't think people that aren't already at risk for serious depression or suicidal behavior would just go and kill themselves over an election.

Tobias is hovering here and he can prob explain this better but basically suicide often is prompted by spur-of-the-moment decisions of people already troubled with such thoughts and this election makes for a good trigger especially when there's a correlation between individual experience with discrimination and depression.

[Huitante]

Maybe this is mainly happening (if it's actually happening) on young people over losing the election. When you're young you feel and think you can do anything, so when things actually don't go like you planned, I guess this is a shortcut to run away from the situation. But yeah this shouldn't even be a thing if you're an adult.

Idk, from my experience the younger people are, the less shit they give about elections.

This suicide thing is even more disappointing than both candidates combined.

[Prix with a Silent X]

I don't think people that aren't already at risk for serious depression or suicidal behavior would just go and kill themselves over an election.

Tobias is hovering here and he can prob explain this better but basically suicide often is prompted by spur-of-the-moment decisions of people already troubled with such thoughts and this election makes for a good trigger especially when there's a correlation between individual experience with discrimination and depression.

This is well-put.

[Sunara]

you might be surprised by this but acutely suicidal people often dont think very rationally

Sorry, and I'm probably wrong, but itc I got the impression it was directly caused by the election, not by people already struggling with such thoughts. In the latter case I understand how this could affect them ofc.

When you are suicidal, anything can be a trigger. Even the most minor of things.

There are (at least) two different groups affected by this. Those that are suicidal in nature and those that feel so beat up by life's circumstances that everyone feels like an enemy.

[Tobias]

Suicide is often a very quick and emotional decision. LGBT and related communities both attempt suicide, and successfully commit suicide, at much higher rates then the general populace.

trump's election is seen by some as a repudiation of that culture by the American people. It doesn't help that trolls and people engaging in victorious gloating are rubbing a lot of salt on raw emotional wounds right now.

[Snow]

I'm not attacking anyone, I just find it hard to understand, is all.

[just Beamu]

Luckily I'm well past being suicidal like I used to be but yeah this would have probanly affected me much worse if I still was

[kotelo]

Does Trump hate the LGBT community? I saw him bad mouthing immigrants and muslims more than anything.

[just Beamu]

He hasn't said much in general but his VP actively supports conversion therapy and has referred to the LGBT community as causing the moral collapse of America so any positivity he might have had in that regard is kinda moot

[SeiKeo]

Does Trump hate the LGBT community? I saw him bad mouthing immigrants and muslims more than anything.

Trump seems personally to be pretty trans-sympathetic but doesn't seem to care enough to push back on what his party wants on the issue.

[JetKinen]

He hasn't said much in general but his VP actively supports conversion therapy and has referred to the LGBT community as causing the moral collapse of America so any positivity he might have had in that regard is kinda moot

If i learned something about politics these last few years is how different politically the VP can be from the president

[kotelo]

It feels like Pence was forced into Trump's campaign to preserve the most conservative side of the Republican Party. Like a "hi he's anti-LGBT we still republican!" sort of thing.

[Tobias]

When he asked john kasich to join the ticket, he offered him near unlimited control of domestic policy. Presumably he offered pence something similar. Therefor pence's stance is disconcerting.

[kotelo]

oh that's bad

[Frostyvale]

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And if you're certain that you're likely to harm yourself get off the forum and check in with the local authorities, who will then take preventative measures.