Yeah but Holmes Trial Quest was also interesting and that also felt like Sakurai. Add the Dantes Drama CD too.Originally Posted by R.Lock
If there are XIX century boys involved I think Sakurai gets more on fire.
Yeah but Holmes Trial Quest was also interesting and that also felt like Sakurai. Add the Dantes Drama CD too.
If there are XIX century boys involved I think Sakurai gets more on fire.
Last edited by yokushi; December 30th, 2017 at 05:16 PM.
He is a protag in CCC if you pick him.
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Didnt you said standard OP protag? He is no protag.
And he certainly isnt the "standard". I hazard to think Gil as the standard for Nasu's character.
And he has his weakness, one that is written with actual well written and well established embedded in his not boring personality.
Even if we count CCC with him being in the protag's side, he is still much more interesting than Manaka being the protag on Fragment.
Manaka may have her reason and justification fo power level but that doesnt change the fact that she felt like a boring mary sue.
Last edited by castor212; December 30th, 2017 at 05:25 PM.
Most entertaining 25 weeks of my life thus far.
Thanks, Apo!
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
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still not seeing what is "standard" about Gil as Nasu antagonist.
And she is indeed worse, at least for me, because she is boring to read and have way to smoothsailing of a plot. Which is mary sue definition.
Last edited by castor212; December 30th, 2017 at 05:30 PM.
She ends up with a sword run through her chest.
Apocrypha was okay. It gave us Gordes, whose legacy we can follow in the only work that matters in Type Moon: Grand Order
Last edited by JetKinen; December 30th, 2017 at 05:49 PM.
And everything until up to that point has her in perfection.
Unlike Gil who gpt foreshadowings of how his arrogance is his downfall.
Shes boringly written. At least for me.
But she's still not dead yet tho.
Also curious on something, to those who have read it, how good did Sakurai write Ayaka? Do you think Sakurai writing her as a protag would be better if she actually does write Prototype proper?
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
We got plenty of foreshadowing of the servants who all adore her slowly realizing that they fucked up giving plenty of warnings to her no 1 hero Arthur who ends killing her after waking up to the world and finally becoming a seigi no mikata one last time.
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No but she lost.
She was betrayed by the one person she truly loved, with the help with all the servants that she toyed with. And now she is coming back in a possible Prototype "adaptation/sequel?" with hell to pay against the person who was the catalyst for said betrayal
Last edited by JetKinen; December 30th, 2017 at 05:59 PM.
I should probably reread but i literally dont remember that this was a thing at least in the first 4 volumes, where manaka was like whooosh shit happens as i will it
Maybe? I've read the translated novels over on the Fate/Prototype sections of this site, but since Ayaka is basically a minor character in Fragments and a kid at that, there's not really much to go on in regards to her as a character.
Taking that aside however, with what I have seen of Ayaka via the OVA, comic anthologies, the Murder-Mystery Drama CD, and that Hanafuda Scenario from the Realta Nua 2012 release, I think she has the potential to be good character overall. Granted most of those are non-canon/gag scenarios and the OVA itself just a preview of what could have been, but they do give an idea of what we could see in Ayaka once Fate/Prototype is formally written down and released.
Most entertaining 25 weeks of my life thus far.
Thanks, Apo!
There's an major piece of TM work currently being released that has Ayaka as a major character. Not by Sakurai though
If you compare vol 5 to vol 1 you can see that Sakurai got better at writing the story, so given time, proper proto may be good. Also fragments Ayaka is not the same as Proto Ayaka cause the trauma makes her a more pessimistic person, but Sakurai did show her inferiority complex with her sister pretty good without sounding annoying.
Personally, I loved that flashback battle between Arthur and Lucius, is great and a must read. Same with the final scene of Arthur vs Beast.
Sakurai also gives a lot of references and foreshadowing pretty good tied up, for example look at Para`s NP description in the novels. (It also seems to me that Nasu makes Sakurai write something with a lot of foreshadowing for a work of his thats gonna come later. Labyrinth to the Salomon temple magic, Altera in Go to Extella, and so on)
The main problem with Sakurai right now its not that she is a terrible writer but that people still try to denied that she got better that when started, yes, her first works were lacking to terrible (fragments vol 1 to septem) but it got so much better (vol 5, the trail quest Holmes and Arthur, Dantes event, etc)
Great work with Apocrypha A-1 Pictures!
If you're talking about Strange Fake, then that don't count since we're talking about Proto-Ayaka. SF-Ayaka is apparently another person altogether so I heard, so whatever developments happen to her is hers alone in that verse.
Last edited by Cipher One; December 30th, 2017 at 06:20 PM.
I agree with you there, but I think that applies for other Type Moon Authors as well, if Higashide and Sakurai are behind either Shinjuku or Shimousa which is what I gathered (don't know who did who tho), which are seen commonly as the best EoR chapters(outside of CCC but that's unfair since that's about CCC which was great.). I definetly think that the authors are improving as they continue to write from what I seen in the past year. So personally I don't hold anything against them.
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
someone please gif that reines entrance with this party's over text kthx
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