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    Possible explication about the parallel world of Fate/Grand Order and his events

    As the rumor that the Magical Girl version of Joan D'Arc (Ruler) may come to appear in the Type-Moon April Fools and maybe even in the Fate/Grand Order in a future event, due as the story of the part 1 was finished and we will enter part 1.5 before we enter part 2 (I believe that part 2 will be released near the end of 2017 to give time to release the other 3 remaining chapters of part 1.5 to be released after the first chapter's release), I finally have an idea of ​​what Type-Moon will do for the future of Fate/Grand Order and who will be the person who will be the BRIGDE who will connect the world of Fate/Grand Order with all the Type-Moon works already done now.

    To begin with, you need to clarify a few things regarding the Fate/Grand Order's timeline, the special events that have taken place and how they work, and how they are intertwined with the Fate/Grand Order's mainstory and how it will continue to follow with this same theme in future events and in parts 1.5 and 2.

    As was shown in chapter 9 of the final singularity of part 1, Salomon, when we faced the last Demon God pillar so that they could gain access to Solomon's temple to fight Solomon/Goetia in the final fight, practically almost ALL SERVANTS of the events that occurred that occurred until the end of Babylonia appeared to assist the protagonist Gudao (Ritsuka Fujimaru)/ Gudako, Shielder, and the people of Chadela in the final fight against Solomon/Goetia and his 72 Demon Gods. With that, it was proven that all of the special events that were released until the moment the final singularity Solomon was released are in fact CANONS and occurred within the Fate/Grand Order part 1's mainstory until its outcome.

    So much so that after defeating Goetia was revealed at the end of part 1 that it has been over a year since the beginning of the Fate / Grand Order adventure have started from the singularity Fuyuki that began in the month of August 2015 and the singularity Salomon occurred Near the end of 2016 in December, and mankind and the world were killed by the burning of the 72 Demon Gods and their leader Goetia throughout this period of time, leaving the world and humanity confused because they literally lost More than a year of their lives when they were resurrected with the death of Goetia and the 72 Demon Gods in Solomon's singularity, thus undoing all the anomalies that he and his demons caused in the Fate / Grand Order timeline when Dr. Roman / True Solomon eliminated his entire existence, even his record on the Heroic Throne, and took with him Goetia and his 72 Demon Gods when he used his first Noble Ghost, Ars Nova, when all of his 10 rings he received from God that allowed Control and negate all the Magical Arts used by mankind were gathered together in one place.

    And the fact that the Fate/Grand Order's timeline was different from that of Fate/Zero, Lord El-Melloi II Case Files, Fate/stay night, and Fate/hollow ataraxia began to emerge when the Fate/Accel Zero Order event came about, by analyzing Fuyuki's singularity again and seeing when an alternate version of the 4th Holy Grail War came out in 1994 D.C. in the prologue to this event, Dr. Roman was surprised when he learned from Lord El-Melloi II that in the world of where it came happened five Holy Grail Wars in Fuyuki that were covered up by the actions of the Mage's Association and the Holy Church while Dr. Roman explained to him that there was only one Holy Grail War in Fuyuki (the one Dr. Roman attended as Servant Caster Solomon) according to the historical records that he has in Chadela for obtaining this information in the Atlas Academy and the Clock Tower of his world. Here Lord El-Melloi II explained about parallel worlds and some of their details, including information that Fuyuki's Greater Grail had been corrupted by All World's Evils since the events of the 3rd Holy Grail War, which helps to understand that the timeline of the Fate/Grand Order time was vastly different from that of Fate/stay night's 5th Holy Grail War and its variations in various parts since Fuyuki's Greater Grail of this reality was never corrupted because Avenger (Angra Mainyu) was never summoned first of all.

    With the release of the Melty Blood Back Alley Alive Nightmare and what little I could understand about its storyline and some of the glossaries released, some new facts further reinforced that the Fate/Grand Order's timeline was vastly different from that of Fate/Zero, Lord El-Melloi II Case Files, Fate/stay night, and Fate/hollow ataraxia and not only affected the events related to the Fuyuki Holy Grail Wars performed and the people involved, but also affected events related to Tsukihime, Kagetsu Tohya, Melty Blood Series, and everything that was related to vampires, Dead Apostles and nighttime supernatural creatures in general.

    By the information I found in Beast's Lair regarding Melty's Blood Back Alley Aliance: Nightmare manga, it was revealed by Kinoko Nasu himself that "In a world where invocation of Heroic Spirits is possible, the 27 Dead Apostles Ancestors do not exist." In Volume 2 of Fate/strange fake, Noble Phantasm are said to be wielded by Heroic Spirits who "validate human history", while the Dead Apostles are beings who "deny human history.", and how the world and the timeline of Fate/Grand Order is a world where the Common Sense of Man, the Human Order, pulse with vitality, that is to say that this is a world where although vampires, Ghouls, Living Deads, and the Dead Apostles may still exist, the apex of the Dead Apostles that are the 27 Dead Apostles Ancestors did not come to appear in the history of the world as a force to be recognized and many of the original members did not even become powerful vampires in life to form this organization that began when Crimson Moon Brunestud came to Earth at Gaia's request.

    With this in mind and on the revelation of some important members of the 27 Dead Apostles Ancestors who have been mentioned or appeared in Fate/Grand Order as alternative versions of themselves, this leads me to believe that possibilities have led to Fate/Grand Order's timeline to be vastly different from those we know from other Fate works, and because those connected to the Tsukihime Series never occurred in that particular world.

    In case to build the Greater Grail's ritual that is Heaven's Feel for the purpose of opening a hole to the Akasha, which the magus believe to be the place that is the Root of All Things and to recover the Third True Magic: Heaven's Feel back to the Einzberns which was their original goal, the Einzbern, the Makiri (Matous currently), and the Tohsaka used the land of Fuyuki, Japan, and the subterranean cave located on Mount Enzou to serve as the dwelling place where the Greater Grail would be well hidden and protected for the Heaven's Feel ritual and had the supervision and support of the teacher of the three leaders of those Three Founding Families of that time more than 200 years ago who is the 4th of the Dead Apostles Acnestors, Kischur Zelretch Schweinorg (Wizard Marshall Zelretch), who owns the Second True Magic: Kaleidoscope.

    While on the countless timelines, parallel worlds and alternate realities where this ritual was created in Fuyuki from the time of 1790 AD and there were five Holy Grail Wars in that city (only three Wars in Fuyuki and a Great Holy Grail War in the city of Trifas in the parallel world of Fate/Apocrypha) until the year 2004 DC and the complete dismantling of the ritual in 2014 DC because he was contaminated with All World's Evils due to the events of the 3rd Holy Grail War, in the world of Fate/Grand Order only there was a Holy Grail War only and it happened only in the year 2004 DC.

    By the chapters seen in London when Makiri Zolgen (currently Matou Zouken) appeared as one of the villains of that singularity in its original form before becoming Matou Zouken in Fuyuki and how he was living in London and was forced to work for Solomon/Goetia and became the host of one of his 72 Demon Gods due to his family blood line as magus being attached to that of King Solomon to serve as hosts for when his 72 Demon Gods awakened, that accompanied by the fact that the world of Fate/Grand Order is a world where the 27 Dead Apostles Ancestors do not exist end up proving various things, especially by the fact that in the chapters of the singularities Camelot and Salomon it was revealed that Zepia Eltnam Oberon, Night of Wallachia, TATARI, although he went mad when his predictions about the end of the world would happen to discover the cruel reality and tried to challenge The Sixth, he did not leave Atlas to try to become a Dead Apostle and spent the rest of his life building several worthy weapons of destruction, and Fou, the mascot of Chadela who always accompanies Mash and Gudao/Gudako proved to be in fact the much-feared Primate Murder, the 1st of Dead Apostle Ancestors, when Mash died while sacrificing his life to protect Gudao/Gudako of Goetia's fatal attack when he used the Noble Phantom Ars Almadel Salomonis, evaporating it completely and Fou came into contact with his consciousness that was still present in the Solomon singularity so that he could revived it completely and give it the lifetime of a being human being to save Gudao/Gudako and no longer need to fight against Beast IV, which is Fou's form as Primate Murder in the future because he was raised by Merlin in place of Altrouge Brunestud and gained a new perspective and better understanding of the humanity.

    With all this, I can now prove that the reason for the world of Fate/Grand Order is so different from those seen by the other Type-Moon works and their events that have affected all the other events we know as Tsukhime Series, Fate Series, etc. Was due to a single detail only:

    The Zelretch of this timeline, this parallel world and of this reality is DEAD!

    Yes! Zelretch in the world of Fate/Grand Order died and this must have occurred during his final battle against Crimson Moon Brunestud 4000 years ago, when the King of Moon and of Vampires tried to make planet Earth into their new realm. Unlike the various parallel worlds where Zelretch ended up being transformed into a Dead Apostle before eliminating Crimson Moon which was the Ultimate One of the Moon, a Type, and survived the battle, the Zelretch of the world of Fate/Grand Order was possibly killed in its final conflict against Crimson Moon after eliminating it by wasting all its energy to defeat once and for all the King of Moon and of Vampires before it had been killed by Crimson Moon.

    With Zelretch's death, all his remaining legacy was just annotations and related researches that were left by Zelretch himself in relation to his Second True Magic and without his existence in the world of Fate/Grand Order, the Mage's Association and Clock Work never suffered with the random visits that he would want to catch promising prodigies so that he would try to make them his disciples, the Einzbern, the Makiri, and the Tohsaka never had Zelretch as their teacher to help them complete the ritual of Heaven's Feel so that and this was only possible because Zelretch used his Second True Magic to connect Fuyuki's Greater Grail with Akasha and the Throne of Heroes, so that it would be possible to summon the Heroic Spiritis as Servants to perform the Holy Grail Wars in several of the parallel worlds. With Zelretch's help, the Einzbern, the Makiri, and the Tohsaka took ten years just to get the system ready and start the 1st Holy Grail War, but without Zelretch's help in world of Fate/ Grand Order and without the help of the Makiri who never left Europe, the Einzbern only had the Tohsaka's help in Fuyuki and it took about 200 years to finish the Greater Grail for using the notes and theories left by Zelretch of that world in relation to Second True Magic and using the knowledge left to link the Greater Grail with the Throne of Heroes and the Akasha.

    In addition, since the 27 Dead Apostles Ancestors do not exist in the world of Fate/Grand Order, this means that beings like Altrouge Brunestud and Arcueid Brunestud were not even born. True Ancestors were never betrayed by their servants who would be the first to form the 27 Dead Apostles Acnestors, but of course the True Ancestors would become the Demon Lords and that would make the remaining True Ancestors who were sane and their servants fight against the fallen True Ancestors and the result was the destruction of both species, though some of the True Ancestors's servants would survive and be tempted by the thirst for blood they ended up drinking the blood of humans, thus making the vampires, Ghouls, Living Deads, and Dead Apostles existed in that world, but hidden in the shadows due to the growing forces of the Church and the Mage's Association that wiped out almost all of them.

    Michael Roa Valdamjong, because he had never encountered a True Ancestor who was alive to seek immortality, never became a mighty Dead Apostle and died without being able to complete his plan of reincarnation in other bodies so that he could live forever, as well his possible reincarnations of himself would never suffer the fate of being possessed by the Roa, acting like vampires, and being killed by Arcueid, including Ciel as Elesia who never became the 7th of Burial Agency, nor Tohno SHIKI came to be possessed by Roa and cause that accident against Tohno Akiha and Nanaya Shiki (Tohno Shiki) when they were children in the Tohno residence. Nrvnqsr Chaos, who as a human was known as Fabro Rowan never got to learn from Roa the Soli of Genesis because they did not meet at some point in time because Roa had not turned into a Dead Apostle, and Fabro ended up dying for not being able to control your 666 beasts for a long time. Sion Eltnam Atlasia never left Atlas, did not meet Riesbyfe Stridberg, nor went to Misaki and did not even meet Shiki, but also never got bitten by TATARI because his ancestor Zepia died 500 years ago. And Aozaki Aoko never got to know Nanaya/Tohno Shiki either.

    And in Fuyuki's case, there was no Great Fire that devastated Shinto, Shirou never lost his parents, nor met Emiya Kiritsugu, nor Irisiviel was created by Jubstacheit, and even the Lesser Grail was not created to activate the Greater Grail when Marisbilly and Solomon won the 1st Holy Grail War.

    Actually the world of Fate/Grand Order is a world where Zelretch actually died and did not become an annoying Troll in the magic world, thus changing a lot and a huge list of events that were to happen did not happen. No one in this world can blame Zelretch for the state of things that happened in Fate/Grand Order this time around.

    And with all this said and spoken, I believe that since we will no longer travel through time to the old past and everything else in the new adventures, I imagine that all future events from now on will pass in the present and who will help the people Of Chadela will be none other than Zelretch of a parallel world who had come to visit the world of Fate/Grand Order after the defeat of Goetia. His motive to appear from part 1.5 onwards is that the parallel world in that timeline was dead due to the actions of Goetia and that Zelretch stepped into that world while all the ages were being destroyed by Ars Almadel Salomonis in that period of time he would surely have been killed and his soul absorbed to energize Goetia's Noble Phantasm. So it will possibly appear after the future of that timeline has completely returned to normal.

    With the world safe again and seeing how the technology used by Chadela allows you to travel through time with the use of magic and Second Magic notes from your counterpart being used as a basis to create Chadelas, Zelretch is likely to make some modifications to the equipment Which would allow not only to travel through time but also to use Chadelas to travel to parallel worlds. In this way it will be possible for Mash, Gudao/Gudako and the Servants to visit the worlds of Tsukihime and Melty Blood, Fate/Apocrypha, Prisma ILLYA, Fate/stay night (Heaven's Feel route), Fate/EXTRA, Fate/EXTRA CCC, Fate Extella, etc. in the hopes that with the intervention of the cast of Fate/Grand Order in these parallel worlds and their actions will end up generating new parallel worlds for Zelretch to visit for his entertainment as well as to achieve powerful allies like Emiya Shirou, Tohno Shiki, Arcueid, Sion, Riesbyfe, Ciel, Bazett Fraga McRemitz, Caren Hortensia, Miyu Edelfelt, Sieg to help them fight the remaining 4 Beasts to save the Fate/Grand Order's world from the total destruction these Beasts will cause.

    Well this is my theory, and one more thing. I believe that 10 Rings of Solomon will have a new role in the plot and will fall into the hands of Beast VII who will be the true final boss of part 2, holding in his hands the power to deny mankind the power to use magic again to become easy prey for the Beast VII as well as the other 3 Beasts that will appear first before the Beasts VII manifest since it is the Beast that announces the end and it can only appear when the other 6 Beasts of the 7 of them are defeated.

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    The Zelretch of this timeline, this parallel world
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    From what I understand, Zelretch is like Darkseid. There is only one of him across the various alternate universes. Probably has something to do with why he has a connection to the Second Magic. ...Or maybe vice versa.

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