Create your own holy grail war! Simply add a list of servants(they can come from the create your own servant page) and have other people discuss what they think would happen!
rules:
1. No trolls,flame,etc.
2. Try to stay logical when deciding what you think would happen in the scenario presented.
3. Be nice have fun.
4. Make sure that when you explain what you think would happen, you be as detailed as possible.
Last edited by venomking; March 7th, 2017 at 01:09 AM.
Well I feel like starting it off, so here's my scenario.
Servents
saber: Lancelot, master Emiya shirou.
lancer: vlad the Impaler: master bazzet.
Castor: pied piper, master rin.
Berserker: lu bu, master illyasviel.
Assassin: kiritsugu Emiya, master tokiomi
Archer: Emiya shirou , master Gilgamesh(hey it can happen)
Last edited by venomking; March 7th, 2017 at 01:03 AM.
Please, please, look at what you're writing. If you're uncertain about how to spell a name, check the wiki. It's at least accurate in that regard.
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Seriously though, it's painful to read. Also, you have no excuse for misspelling Tokiomi's name. It's in your blasted avatar.
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Like, I really don't think you're trying to be a troll, but with your disastrous spelling and grammar, people are going to think so. And if I'm not mistaken, you've been warned about this too.
Likes attention, shiny objects, and... a ball of yarn?
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you don't need to know japanese to figure this one outOriginally Posted by Draconic
now you're thinking to yourself, there is no god is there
pfft "names"
pfft "romanization"
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
There, and please I didn't add a grammar rule, the grammar wasn't even that bad. Anyways will you know tell me what you think would happen in that holy grail war I presented?
Now*, and Emiya Shirou dies. I suggest you take your own advice and go into more detail so we can have a better idea on what the scenario is. Like where it takes place and such.
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Good grammar while not necessary, is good etiquette. It shows you're willing to put good effort in making sure people understand what you are trying to communicate.
Ah yes fair point, well let's say Emiya after the UBW route, but um mass amnesia so rin and Ilya have no idea who he is so he doesn't ether. Basically all the masters are at there prime, but have no idea about the other. Personalities, likes, dislikes,etc remain the same.
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Also place is obviously fuyuki, time is let's say 2009
Fictional Holy Grail War.
(Copy and pasting this from my own thing I wrote.)
An alternate continuity of Fate/'s story. In which the Fuyuki Grail Wars never happened. This is an Alternate Universe separate from Fate/ canon. The Fictional Holy Grail war is a set of grail wars that have been ongoing since after World War 1 each grail war has only escalated and escalated in brutality and power. and the cycles for these wars are ten years max. The Fictional servants summoned can come from any era of time meaning someone like say 'Cloud Strife' could be summoned before he was even created just due to how the Throne of Heroes works in this universe. 'Avatars of Gods' from fiction can be summoned along with 'Demi-Gods' but actual 'Gods' cannot.Anyway onto the Servants as considering most masters would be purely OC
Saber: Aragorn II Elessar NP: High King of the Reunited Kingdom.
Archer: Vergil Sparda NP: Yamato: My Father's Heirloom
Lancer: King NP:?? (Honestly difficult to decide)
Rider: The Headless Horseman NP: Something to do with how he became headless obviously
Caster: Seto Kaiba NP: Duel Monsters "True power of a Duelist"
Assassin: Kakashi Hatake NP: Rakiri "One Thousand Birds that Cut Lightning."
Berserker: Sayaka Miki NP: Symposium Magarum - Symphony of a Witch
All I got so far on the concept.
To be fair, "Blackmore" gets across the whole gothic vibe a lot better, so I can understand the choice.
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Also, it's not as if the names that show up in art books and the like are absolute either. I'm sure more then even a few authors have gone back and forth in such cases...
I mean "moa" is a type of bird, so...
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Ah, kinda wanna see what holly Grail royd comes up with.
Personally, I feel this thread is kind of silly and (like a lot of your threads, honestly) could easily be folded under Create-A-Servant, at least in the regard that 90% of people here are going to pick their own created Servants anyway.
I already wrote what Servants I would use for a hypothetical fanfic somewhere else, but I'll repost since I can't be bothered to find it right now and a few of the spots have changed anyway.
Saber- Amadis De Gaul
Lancer- Don Quixote (2.0)
Archer- Squanto
Rider- Noah
Caster- Arachne
Berserker- Golem Of Prague
Assassin- Cain (2.0)
Don Quixote would be the protag's Servant, Amadis would be the seemingly unbeatable mentor figure who gets killed off partway through and Noah would be the overpowered final boss ala Gilgamesh. Any questions?
Nope.
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Actually just one is there plot armor?
...Not really sure what you mean. There'd be plot armor in the sense that the heroes are going to win and the villains are going to lose, but not really beyond that. In particular, by the very nature of the Grail War setup there's pretty much only going to be one Servant left standing by the end at most. (If I didn't decide to pull a Fate True End and have Don Quixote fade away after the final battle, which seems a little cruel)
ah, so protag wins no matter what, got it. but in the scenerio were thats not true my moneys on cain, as cain i feel would probs sit back and wait for a good amount of servants to kill one another off. and then use his second NP to kill them by tricking them into dealing him a mortal blow that would surely kill any normal servant.
Seeing this is basically the containment thread for the Holy Grail Fic Ideas i'll just post something i was meant to write but besides some very specific moments in my head couldn't find the courage to truly put in work.
I'm sure one of the first thing people think when it comes to headcannon and fanfic shit is "How about a Grail War in my Country/City!". This is my personal attempt. I have written sheets for most servants featured here in the CaS threads and the sheets i didn't write i still plan to do it so.
Mind you some of the stuff, specially the ones involving Team Lancer and SPECIALLY Team Assassin, the two ones without a sheet and probably the two more important characters to the heart of this story i'll never going to write are heavy subject to change.
The Final Boss is a very dumb idea and to be honest i'm pretty embarassed i'm showing it. Anyway here we go
Fate/Karkinos
Setting: Recife, capital of Pernambuco, an state of the northeast of Brazil during the 90's. The largest city of the entire region and the sixth largest metropolitan area of Brazil, Recife is a city situated in the litoral of the country. Named after the stone reefs that made its beaches perfect to receive ships carrying Slaves and Sugar, the City with its many bridges, rivers and beaches has been nicknamed as the "Brazillian Venice". The city also holds a large quantity of "Mangues" or mangrove swamps, the world's largest a urban city. It was during the early days of the country the most important region, being home to some of the largest sugarcane plantations, and so Slavery was a big part of the region's history. However over the years the city has lost some of its influence over to the big southern cities like Sćo Paulo, Minas Gerais and Rio de Janeiro only recently starting to grow in influence again.
Nevertheless in the early 90's Recife was in a dire straits. In 1991 the city was the most violent capital of the country, the city with the largest unemployed rate and the World's fourth worst city to live in. People were living in absolute misery, dying of hunger, sickness and plain old violence thanks to its astounding crime rate. The pollution of the rivers was rampant and coupled with the famous mangroves swamps of the city, gave the city this look of absolute decay and death
However around the time a certain cultural movement started to rise. A group of kids and teenagers set off to kickstart of what used to be the heart of the country through music. The Manguebeat. The scene mixed traditional northeastern music with new eletronic styles. The musicians embraced the idea of the Swamp, but by claiming that while yes, a swamp is a place filled with death and decay it was also one of the most fertile environment of the world. The City was nicknamed by them "Manguetown" and the people living in them, "Crabs with Brains", an homage to the creature most commonly associated with the swamps. in 1991 they published a manifesto explaining the movement
This is the moment i would be trying to capture. An absolutely shitty place to live in, but that is filled with life and people just trying to get by. If this was animated, the soundtrack would be almost entirely based on manguebeat
Heres a nice article and video about the movement
Themes: It's a Fake Holy Grail War, so it doesn't has all the Seven Classes, with Saber missing out. Most Masters are sick, paralyzed or weak in some shape or form. The Servants are all the dominating personality of the teams, mostly carrying them forwards or in most extreme cases simply offing them. However while the Masters are in some shape or form weak they're extremely resilient. Most combats do not end up with death but instead with the Servants and Masters living to fight another day Taking the analogy made by the Manguebeat people, the people here are all crabs living and thriving in death and decay. They all might be a bunch of losers but nobody can navigate this swamp better than these people can.
I generally did not try to make them all that strong in combat. At least on the offensive side. I have one Servant, arguarbly two, that if they were actual servants they might be top tier, but generally they should range from mid-to-low tier.
Anyway here we go, the teams in no particular order
Team Berserker
Chinese Master - Part of the growing community of chinese in Recife and important member of the Chinese triads. An ancient magi who is easily one of the most prepared masters for a Holy Grail War and one of the responsible for the implemention of this Sub Holy Grail War. Looked set to be winning this war but he fucked up in the beginning and lost control of his servant. Spends the rest of this fic trying to get it back. Original Master of Berserker
Prostitute Master - A normal prostitute working for the chinese triads. Trying to get by in life. Ends up antagonizing the Chinese Master and becomes the "Master" for Berserker. Also can't control her Servant but has an deep admiration for him
Berserker - A great Chinese legend summoned at his prime. Unfortunately for his master his prime was a very unstable moment in his life. Essentially a man lost in time, a Don Quixote in modern days. chivalrous, gentlemanly but unable to recognize his current reality. Breaks away from his original master immediately. Ends up hanging out with a bunch of undesirables who were going to be used by the Chinese Mafia as sacrifice. The strongest servant
Team CasterSpoiler:
Japanese Master - Part of the Japanese Community in the city of Bonito, a small city near the capital. The youngest son of a family of small magi that almost lost their way as magis. The family has a focus on flower magic, but as the Youngest son of the family and without much promise, they let him be to be whatever he wanted to be. Traveled to Recife to start a small flower shop and got caught in the mess that is this HGW. Just wants a quiet life with his flowers. Probably the most balanced releationship with his Servant of the masters. Master of Archer/Caster
Caster - Relatively known figure in Japan, but in this country a very unknown figure. At heart he is a lazy, good for nothing, well-mannered old man. Big part of the modernization and urbanization of the City of Recife. Doesn't like fighting. Quick to gain friends. Ends up becoming something close to an Yakuza patriarch.
Team AssassinSpoiler:
Cacique Master - The Cacique(leader) of a tribe of Native Americans living in the outskirts of the city. Strong, coragous with a heart of gold. A natural born leader. Just wants to give a better life to his tribemates. Knows some Shamanism. Well versed in combat, possibly the strongest Master in a Fight.
Pajé Advisor - The main religious leader of the tribe, wise beyond the years and the main advisor of the Assassin Master. Basically a father to the Cacique. Has a black sense of humour. Very Powerful Shaman but his age doesn't allow him to do much in combat nowadays. One of the people responsible for the implemation of the HGW system in Recife.
Assassin - A sitution similar to the Hassans. Part of an "Order". Hates deforestation. Mostly quiet dude/chick(never decided on it) who keeps mostly quiet to itself. Doesn't rellay Obeys his Master. Pretty weak on the Urban enviroment but very strong in the Jungle. Wishes for the destruction of the City.
Team RiderSpoiler:
Politician Master - corrupt young politician who is way over his head in this War. The one responsible for the funds necessary for the event and the one responsible of making sure no one in the government wold interfere with the War. Fancies himself as a master manipulator, and while he is very good at the political world, he is completely outclassed by most people in this war. Too dense to notice Rider's actual personality so he just goes with the flow, thinking Rider has a plan behind everything.
Rider - Somehow the Priest is able to summon a strong servant. At first a very dignified guy. Has the airs of a teacher. In actuality he is an adrenaline junkie. He is already fulfilling his wish through the participation of the Holy Grail War. Dangerously gung-ho and a daredevil.
Team LancerSpoiler:
Crab Master - Part of a Magus family that most closely resembles a bunch of hermits, living in the mangroves of the city, nicknamed by the locals the Crab People. Specialized in a mix of Necromancy and Astrology. By tapping into the Cancer constellation, a constellation historically tied to Death and Resurrection since the babylonian times, alongside with the constant decay and fertility of their homes, they're able to reach a state of near-immortaility. Their bodies have become one with the mud of the mangrove in a state of death and Resurrection. But while their body become near indestructible, their self tend to erode away until they just stop and become part of the swamp where they live. While they live in the absolutely misery of the mangrove their influence is surprisingly far reaching in the city with tons of contact amongst the homeless. A Young Magus, he is one of the last fully functional member of the family. His sense of self is pretty damaged, but he is the better suited of the clan for the mission. The clan, much like any other traditional magus family, wishes to reach the root. They plan to do it, by patting into the Grail to accelerate the constant cycle of decay and growth of the swamp essentially creating a Perpetual Motion Machine for the family. He starts a very wooden person, but later through his releationship with Lancer and the other masters and Servants become more and more human. Probably the closes thing to a Main Charater
Lancer - A powerful woman, wielding a ceremonial spear. Pretty down-to-earth, Lancer acts like a mother and a teacher to her Master. She guides her Master through tasks and will at times choose the hardest path because she belives that to be the best path for his character. Can be pretty melancholic and can be caught staring at nothing at times, remembering her life.
Team ArcherSpoiler:
Archer - Amoral, in it for himself, Archer is definitively the most well-known of these heroes locally and what in another country would just be another low-tier Servant, thanks to his fame, transformed into a very powerful servant. Has no shame in betraying anyone, in fact thats the first he does, offing his original Master and sustaining himself through continuous use of his Noble Phantasm. Spends most of the War trying to create partnerships and breaking them not long after. The Wildcard of the war.
Church Supervisor - Not a part of the the Team Archer perse but the only person whose Archer doesn't betray. The Church Supervisor. Screams Evil and Shady, and while he is definitively Shady as a Priest, he is an honest-to-god supervisor without any evil plan just trying to do his best. Didn't want to be part of this war at all. Very good hand-to-hand fighter, specialized in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Spoiler:
Last edited by JetKinen; March 11th, 2017 at 03:24 AM.
As silly as this Thread might be, I might as well put this up for fun. Heed that this is almost not serious. So expect some stupid tidbits.
Setting is a normal Grail War. The place is still Fuyuki. Honestly, I can't write a story to save my life, so this will never be a fanfic. Like RoydGolden and JetKinen, most of the Servants listed will be the fan-made ones I created. If some of the names aren't created yet, then assume they're the ones I'll make in the future.
Saber - Jaques de Molay, The Last Grandmaster
Archer - Huang Zhong, Shu's Hawkeye
Lancer - Hong Hai'er, Red Child of Flame
Rider - Zenobia, Warrior-Queen of Palmyra (Protag's Servant)
Caster - Perenelle Flamel, Alchemist's Aide
Berserker - Ashoka Maurya, The Fierce
Assassin - Virginia Hall, The Limping Lady (likely "Final Boss," surprisingly.)
(However, unable to bring itself out, Angra Mainyu sent another Avenger as an agent of sorts.)
Avenger - "Roger de Flor," who is actually Berenger VI, Revenge of the Grand Company.
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Notes:
(Archer is the rival to Saber for most of the War, until the former sacrifices himself when fighting Berserker.)
(Meanwhile Rider is this to Assassin, while the latter seemed pitifully weak and non-serious, she managed to fool the others and managed to get the the last two in the War.)
(Avenger is pitifully weak, but his NP is extremely dangerous.)
(Caster and Lancer will die against Berserker. Caster would overuse her NP to kill Berserker, causing her to fade away.)
(Remaining Servants after killing Avenger would probably be Rider, Saber and Assassin.)
(Saber may get shot in the back since he's pretty weak after the fight with Avenger.)
(While Assassin may seem weak, her Knowledge is Power Skill gives her a boost to opponents who she knows everything about.)
Last edited by SleepMode; March 19th, 2017 at 05:24 PM.
So I'm going to not only use my servants but as well as a couple from type moon itself(cuase I gotta face reality and admint that most of my sheets are bad) so
first a couple of things for the holy grail war.
location:fukyuki city.
Clas skills: each class has teh orgional class skills but I'm adding some extra state skills to spice things up. Archer class gets mana boost which can temparly increase there mana by 2 and half ranks as well as increased understanding.
Saber class gets reality resistance which allows for up to 1/10 of the damage of reality based Phantasms to be nulled.
Castor gets physical reasistence which enables small scale reasistence to physical stats allowing castors to fight on the front line. Assasin, berserker, and rider get mental reasistence.
Also in this holy grail war, time has no real relevance. All masters have memories about themselves, but any attachment or memories towards or about the other masters are erased.
archer: is EMIYA. Master:emiya shirou
caster:is pied piper. Master: kotimine
Lancer: cu chulune. master tokiomi
Berserker: leather face. Master: bezzet
Rider: Achilles. Master irisviel.
Assasin:Cain. master kiritsugu emiya.
saber: mordred. Master: rin
who wins, is up to what you think.
Last edited by venomking; March 19th, 2017 at 11:27 AM.
What on earth qualifies as a "reality-based" Noble Phantasm? Ones like Ea that work by revealing the "truth" of the world? Still seems like a needlessly specific Skill that'd come in handy almost never... Don't understand the logic for Archers being able to increase their Mana either.
On to the actual participants... If Shirou summoned EMIYA, wouldn't he just get immediately shanked in the back? Unless EMIYA's motives have changed in this incarnation from "murder my past self at all costs". And why would Tokiomi be in a Grail War fighting against his very own daughter? Doesn't that seem a little odd? The same with Iri and Kiritsugu.
At least the Leatherface and Bazett pair-off could be somewhat interesting. I presume he doesn't attack her since she's a woman and all... (and maybe even reminds him of his past love)
Also, going by the above Achilles would almost certainly stomp. As well as just being incredibly powerful, Andreias Amarentos insures he can only be harmed either by striking the heel or those with Divinity of C or higher. Literally nobody in your setup has Divinity at all except Cu, and I doubt many of them would be precise enough to direct attacks at his heel. This seems a little ill thought-out...
Actually, I guess Cain might be able to hurt him since from what I recall of that old sheet (blocking out the memories of the painfully bad grammar) his first murder NP had some fancy conceptual BS that let him ignore defense or what-not. Still, I don't exactly imagine Cain has the raw stats and combat proficiency to match up with one of the swiftest and most powerful heroes in Greek myth. (Unless he gets a surprise attack in, he's toast)
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