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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    Walking out on Zouken, unironically the best thing he could have done. The only thing he didn't do right in that situation was telling Byakuya he was a fucking idiot for staying, and to steal some funds and move away from Fuyuki's with Shinji after Zouken mulched the dude's poor wife (were they married? Or did he just knock her up out of wedlock? I forget).

    I mean, it's crazy how Zouken literally plays everyone like fiddles man. How the fuck does he know more about a man's wife's reproductive capabilities than her husband? It's just surreal.

    And every time people mention that "Kariya is a pedo" thing, I remember that scene in the Zero Hanafuda where he and Tokiomi talk about how smoking hot Sakura will be like when she is older, even prettier than Aoi with huge knockers, and Sakura looks on at the two with the best look of disgust you'd see on a 5 year old.
    What is this and where can it be found?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    I mean, it's crazy how Zouken literally plays everyone like fiddles man. How the fuck does he know more about a man's wife's reproductive capabilities than her husband? It's just surreal.
    Zouken strikes me as the type of guy to keep tabs on promising bloodlines his own clan can latch onto.

    Didn't one of the lore books state that he had Byakuya marry a woman with some unique sorcery trait that didn't get passed along to Shinji?
    Spoiler:
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    when all the evils have given up their waifus, all the greats have left for med school, and there are no more at least 3 day battles to be fought what is left is

    not Tsukihime 2
    not DDD3
    not even Girl's Work

    but f/go

    and now f/go english

    that is what is waiting for you at the end of schadenfreude


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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    What is this and where can it be found?
    It was from the Zero Hanafuda game that came with Realta Nua Playststion handheld version iirc.

    It had such things like Tokiomi acknowledging the Edelfelts as relatives he could have sent Sakura to live with, Kariya failing to hit on Iri, and that was the one where she and Manaka made a duo together right?

    Nasu hides a lot of interesting stuff in humor side stories and humor. Keeps to theme as well, because then you have that G-Sakura bit in Capsule Servant for Realta Nua Vita (has Fate been re-released 4 or 5 times now, I forget), with Tokiomi turning Sakura into a giant robot, and loli Rin and this new Sakura take over the multiverse with Sakura mecha.

    He should do a TV series about that, I'll bet it could sell as well as Prisma does. Get someone like Koyama to do art and Fue to do story and it'll work.

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    Capsule Servant is what they replaced Hanafuda with in the Vita version of Hollow Ataraxia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Capsule Servant is what they replaced Hanafuda with in the Vita version of Hollow Ataraxia.
    wait really? maybe i should get a vita

    and hollow for vita

    and learn japanese
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    He should do a TV series about that, I'll bet it could sell as well as Prisma does. Get someone like Koyama to do art and Fue to do story and it'll work.
    I'm picturing web shorts, like Haruhi-chan. Please don't hit me.
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    Can you really blame Kariya for his increasingly disastrous decisions and actions the closer he gets to the end? There are worms eating his brain! It's pathos that's required here, not scorn.

    Also, why would I hit you? Haruhi-chan is awesome.
    Though admittedly the first episode was the best, between "My ride ain't swift 'cause my gears won't shift."

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    That makes me think of Rin as a loan shark.
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    Admittedly, she'd probably be the hottest loan shark you'll ever meet. She'd probably make you smile as she sucked you dry.


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    The text itself seems to scorn Kariya.

    Seems like a stretch to say the worms are eating his brain. That would have killed him well before the Berserker prana drain.
    Spoiler:
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    when all the evils have given up their waifus, all the greats have left for med school, and there are no more at least 3 day battles to be fought what is left is

    not Tsukihime 2
    not DDD3
    not even Girl's Work

    but f/go

    and now f/go english

    that is what is waiting for you at the end of schadenfreude


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Capsule Servant is what they replaced Hanafuda with in the Vita version of Hollow Ataraxia.
    You're right, mixed it up a bit.

    They make decent mini games, I wonder why they haven't just gone all out to make an rpg yet.

    We've had a fighting game, and a Musou, and with Grand Order's cash they could strike out and get someone to help them make an rpg.

    That, and get with the program with Western releases. Maybe Extella is a sign that they'd actually start caring about the Western fanbase a bit. Hopefully not like Atlus where the discrepancy of messages from the west to the main japanese branch isn't dead silence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    I wonder why they haven't just gone all out to make an rpg yet.
    They've made... two...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draconic View Post
    Can you really blame Kariya for his increasingly disastrous decisions and actions the closer he gets to the end?
    He still a bad character because HE'S SUCH A NICE GUY WHY DOES AOI ONLY DATE JERKS I'M SO NICE TO HER IT SHOULD BE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    He still a bad character because HE'S SUCH A NICE GUY WHY DOES AOI ONLY DATE JERKS I'M SO NICE TO HER IT SHOULD BE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
    He's a bad person, not a bad character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial View Post
    The text itself seems to scorn Kariya.
    You just pin-pointed exactly the reason so many people like Kariya. When the narrative explicitly presents some character or another as worthy of scorn, it's almost a challenge to the audience to interpret them sympathetically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    I don't think you can claim that when you haven't read the text.
    I can claim whatever I damned well want, thank you very much. If you have an opinion to the contrary, then I'd be glad to hear it. Not a fan of the passive-aggressive sniping, though.

    - - - Updated - - -

    And yes, I haven't read the text (as I've said many times before, I have a terminally low tolerance for grimdark). Everyone who's anyone here should know this already, and pointing it out again isn't providing any further useful information. Just take every post I make about the topic with a tacit "speaking as someone who has never read Fate/Zero" disclaimer tacked on.

    Not even getting into the fact that I was talking primarily about how the fanbase views Kariya rather then how he was depicted in the story proper... (And the part about him being scorned in the text was by Imperial, not me)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    so many people like Kariya
    False premise

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    the 2 people i have watched zero with have liked kariya
    and then he strangled aoi
    then they got really confused

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    and then kirei strangled iri and one of them was like
    "does this guy just really like men strangling women?"
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