I read that doujin beforeOriginally Posted by Mcjon01
I think I missed that one and hit the disaster of Ryuunosuke/Loli Rin instead
Not that this is for serious character opinions, but I think that Kariya's back story is sympathetic... to a point. But then, as most Matous, he goes from abused to abusive/delusional/etc.
Imagine that the world is made out of love. Now imagine that it isn’t.
Imagine a story where everything goes wrong, where everyone has their back against the wall, where everyone is in pain and acting selfishly because if they don’t, they’ll die.
Imagine a story, not of good against evil, but of need against need against need, where everyone is at cross-purposes and everyone is to blame.
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the only truly sympathetic matou is shinji's dad
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
He's an alcoholic asshat that fathered Shinji. Seems pretty unsympathetic tbh.
RIP Mrs. Byakuya Matou imo
how is he an asshole
he just drinks away the fear and does nothing
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
He gets tortured by Kiritsugu so suffers at the hands of a man?
Is that what he was doing in the basement with Sakura and Zouken
probably super wasted and took the wrong turn to the bathroom
can attest it happens
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
He decided to sent Shinji overseas during the Grail War so he's actually one of the best parents of the Nasuverse
Ignoring, you know, the whole Sakura thing
(Honest question, how involved was he with that?)
He did what Zouken told him to.
Oversaw the experiments she was going through and just assisting Zouken with whatever he asked for. While coasting on the family money.
Basically, he was being a bystander bitch for Zouken and drinking himself into alcoholism out of depression, no rape if that was what you were thinking.
So other than willingly condoning the abuse and becoming a drunk, I don't think he did anything himself.
I mean, you could also tack on letting the mother of his child become worm fertilizer, but that would be obvious.
Speaking of which, do we have any info on what happened to Byakuya and Kariya's actual parents?
All I know is that iirc, Sakura said their mother planted a cheery blossom tree in the yard that was dying for the longest time (interesting symbolism there Nasu).
Last edited by Altima of the Gates; April 11th, 2017 at 07:52 PM.
Hate to beat a dead horse, but I just came across some stuff from mats that seems relevant on Kariya's putative heroism...
So, I think it's fair to say that the writers at least considered Kariya a somewhat admirable, if tragically flawed character.
Brave Sir Kariya ran away
He bravely ran away
When Zouken reared his ugly head
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Kariya turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Swiftly taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat.
Bravest of the brave, Sir Kariya!
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Good job Matt
Kariya wrote this
*Claps* Bravo good Sir.
Kariya was a Zero Secondary.
The last one isn't even Kariya's own entry. It's Zouken's, so if it was written from anybody's perspective (other then the author's, obviously) it should be his.
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Okay, I have to admit... that's actually pretty damn funny.
I stuffed Kariya inside a locker and stole his lunch money
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