Fate/Grand Order - English

[Trubo]

Ill pick teacher and I.

Its actually perfect for characters like Dantes. HP, starting NP and star absorb.

Eh. Base level it only makes him slightly worse than an Archer at star absorb.

Edit: Oh, his base star weight is only 30. That's pretty shit.

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Camelot nodes be bad civilisation sometimes. Freaking waves of kitties and stupidly high damage slashy.

I don't know whether I'll want to roll for Gorgon or not. On the one hand, she's pretty average, her strengthening quest is two years into the future and I already have her in JP. On the other hand, I don't care about Edgelord McEdgerson, Big Doge, Hey Guys I'm Saving Up For This Meme That Literally Everybody In The World Is Also Saving Up For anywhere near as much, I'd like at least one Avenger class, and it's the freaking Gorgon.

She's the worst gold Avenger though.

[Wandering Swordwoman]

Lmao. Now I wonder what should I do when I get JAlter because avenger has shit star weight and It's hard to increase her level skills

[Tepanyakigo]

Lmao. Now I wonder what should I do when I get JAlter because avenger has shit star weight and It's hard to increase her level skills

worry about that later as tons of people are rolling for us only to get salty in the end...
at least, try to get her and worry later on

[rockitten]

Lmao. Now I wonder what should I do when I get JAlter

Rejoice, just rejoice.
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And if you have white Jeanne, you are destined to be a proud owner of the three little Jeannies (piggies)......

[Trubo]

Lmao. Now I wonder what should I do when I get JAlter because avenger has shit star weight and It's hard to increase her level skills

Jeanne Alter's crit star absorb+damage skill more than makes up for that.

[Geistalt]

tbh, the only reason I'm saving up for Jalter is because she looks good in that costume that'll come out in 2 years and I might happen to get her while rolling for event Craft Essences.

[neveron]

Lmao. Now I wonder what should I do when I get JAlter because avenger has shit star weight and It's hard to increase her level skills

Jeanne's star weight skill is 400%-800%. Put together with her base 29 star weight, that's 116-232: from just above standard to above Riders in weight. And if you've ever put a Rider in a party with two Casters, you'll know how much they hog those stars. Those extra percentages pull it ahead a bunch.

For reference, in the example with two Waver (50) cards and three Jalter (232) cards (because you're 10/10/10ing her, right): Jalter's cards are 26.2%, Waver's 5.6%, and the random boost is +5.6%/+2.3%.
On average that means that 38.2 stars would be enough to put all Jalter's cards at 100%: compare to 36.3-33.2 for Lancelot, 34.1-32.1 for Gilgamesh. Incidentally, look at those numbers and consider how 3*MLB 2030 gives 30 stars/turn.
(These numbers ignore the 100% cap for simplicity's sake: I'm not sure how you'd go about calculating that, but I'm pretty sure it's much more complicated.)

It's not even Lancelot levels of star weight (300-600), but compared to Servants without +weight it's still pretty damn good. You're still at the mercy of the RNG, of course, but that's the fundamental problem with crits.

[eddyak]

What’s a quick way to build some bond points fast? I apparently have one day to make fugly think I like her and I refuse to let her take the bag off her head.

The event didn't endear her to you at all? I found her a more fun than she used to be.

She's the worst gold Avenger though.

Yeah, but the others on the list take up spots from "dear god i hate this man and his entire design" to "eh, sure, why not".

[Geistalt]

If I get her, I'm not even going to level her (for a while); I'm just going to use those 102 Blazes of Wisdom I haven't claimed yet on Cú Alter. Those and the 40-something Berserker Blazes I have saved up.

[Enchants]

Eh. Base level it only makes him slightly worse than an Archer at star absorb.

Edit: Oh, his base star weight is only 30. That's pretty shit.

Is it a bad thing to be a slightly worse archer in star weight when the CE is equipped? As long as its higher than, say a caster and/or an assassin, thats good enough for me.

I personally tested in JP and it fits like a glove.

[Trubo]

Yeah, because it's not slightly worse than Archer. It's slightly worse than Saber.

[neveron]

Is it a bad thing to be a slightly worse archer in star weight when the CE is equipped? As long as its higher than, say a caster and/or an assassin, thats good enough for me.

I personally tested in JP and it fits like a glove.

Edmond gets 90 with Teacher & I, 120 if it's MLB. Assassins have ~100 - Kojirou is 102, for instance. He beats Berserkers (10), Avengers (30), and Casters+Moon Cancer (50), but that's it.

It's "slightly worse than Saber", or more specifically "pretty much just a Lancer".

[Enchants]

Isnt it supposed to be 120 star absorb?

300% of 30 is 90

90 + 30 = 120.

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Im certain that the CE provides additional bonus.

[Trubo]

Ah, yeah, you're right. 100% is 30, add 300% to get 400%, resulting in 30 * 4 = 120.

[neveron]

Oh, is that how it works? I figured that it was just multiplicative given Kyte's wording in his blog, but that makes sense. Fate GUDAGUDA Order's +1% wouldn't work otherwise.

So Edmond+T&I goes to 120 (between the default 100 and Archer's 150), Lancelot goes to 310-610, Gilgamesh to 612-1071, Anne & Mary to 800-1400. If it also multiplies the random weight (the blog indicates that it does?) then Edmond's cards would get +150 or +60 if they were blessed by RNGesus.

It's better, at least.

[Wandering Swordwoman]

Jeanne's star weight skill is 400%-800%. Put together with her base 29 star weight, that's 116-232: from just above standard to above Riders in weight. And if you've ever put a Rider in a party with two Casters, you'll know how much they hog those stars. Those extra percentages pull it ahead a bunch.

For reference, in the example with two Waver (50) cards and three Jalter (232) cards (because you're 10/10/10ing her, right): Jalter's cards are 26.2%, Waver's 5.6%, and the random boost is +5.6%/+2.3%.
On average that means that 38.2 stars would be enough to put all Jalter's cards at 100%: compare to 36.3-33.2 for Lancelot, 34.1-32.1 for Gilgamesh. Incidentally, look at those numbers and consider how 3*MLB 2030 gives 30 stars/turn.
(These numbers ignore the 100% cap for simplicity's sake: I'm not sure how you'd go about calculating that, but I'm pretty sure it's much more complicated.)

It's not even Lancelot levels of star weight (300-600), but compared to Servants without +weight it's still pretty damn good. You're still at the mercy of the RNG, of course, but that's the fundamental problem with crits.

That's mean I need to avoid Archer or Rider to be her teammates. 110 is only a bit better than saber.

[Draconic]

Good god, I never realized how hard Seigfried sucked, but then I used him in Orleans, and my GOD, that was pathetic, he can't even do respectable damage to Lancer zombies!

I didnt make a huge mistake by leveling Emiya's third skill up to maximum, right?

[forumghost]

Good god, I never realized how hard Seigfried sucked, but then I used him in Orleans, and my GOD, that was pathetic, he can't even do respectable damage to Lancer zombies!

I didnt make a huge mistake by leveling Emiya's third skill up to maximum, right?

So you only just realised huh?

Sumanai.

[Wandering Swordwoman]

Good god, I never realized how hard Seigfried sucked, but then I used him in Orleans, and my GOD, that was pathetic, he can't even do respectable damage to Lancer zombies!

I didnt make a huge mistake by leveling Emiya's third skill up to maximum, right?

what is his third skill again? Projection? Magecraft?

[Draconic]

what is his third skill again? Projection? Magecraft?

magecraft. Self-buff, Arts card power boost for one turn.