Fate/Grand Order - English

[pinetree]

That said, I wish her base form wasn't so sexualised; it wasn't just cheap, it actively harmed her visual design.

I don't mind the exposure, with her being the Primordial Mother and all, that's the closest they can get to actually showing breasts and vagina.
I do wish she looked more mature and that they went harder on that route though, give her larger breasts, make her taller, etc.

Just finished Babylonia. It was good, though I think the story would work better in an open world adventure game or something. Camelot overall was more enjoyable and had a better climax. Babylonia's climax was literally just "oh shit we're fucked, let's try thi- oh shit we're still fucked" over and over again. Which is neat and all but repetitive in the F/GO story format.

Also evil Ushi was dumb. That arc could have been completely removed and nothing would have been lost.

It served to give Benkei his single shining character moment.
I could have done without the "these dark feelings were inside you all along!" though.

[Kratosirving]

I didn't mind Tiamat's wailing either - at first. But it eventually got a bit annoying, I kind of wish she had been able to give some actual words toward the end. But I guess it isn't necessary :|

Also, I guess with Tiamat's appearance we can retcon the Grail mud in a sense to be the Primordial Mud. Also now that just makes me think of the horrors of someone writing a Zerg transformation with that mud. D:

[Wandering Swordwoman]

They look like Zergs in starcraft. You can put Lahmus in starcraft and it'll still fit

[Reign]

With the way Chaldea's Saint Graph recording works, shouldn't Berserker Ushi Alter theoretically be summonable by them?

[pinetree]

With the way Chaldea's Saint Graph recording works, shouldn't Berserker Ushi Alter theoretically be summonable by them?

I guess we never got a reading of her Saint Graph since it was deep inside the ocean.

[Iceblade44]

Ah jesus I have to hurry up and finish Camelot then Babylonia, I dont want to miss the raids

[Kratosirving]

Eh you've got a week Ice, I took it easy and did Babylonia through natural AP until last night when I blitzed through the endgame of it.

[SpoonyViking]

I don't mind the exposure, with her being the Primordial Mother and all, that's the closest they can get to actually showing breasts and vagina.

See, if they had gone for more of a Mother Goddess vibe, it would have been great! Even a proper "fertility = eroticism" depiction, inaccurate as it would be, might have worked. "Young lady with a thong" just smacked of trying too hard, though, too much pandering.

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I don't see a problem with Tiamat Femme Fatale design Do you expect primordial gods to wear lot of clothes like royalty?
Heck do you even read myth about Greek Gods? They're fucking naked (especially the male one)

As a matter of fact, I'm getting my PhD in Classical Studies. As for visual portrayals of Greek deities, I'd suggest you take a look at Ancient art - and I do mean actual Ancient art, not Renaissance art supposedly inspired by Greco-Roman art.

[Tobias]

Camelot was better, but Babylon had taiga

[Tobias]

As a matter of fact, I'm getting my PhD in Classical Studies. As for visual portrayals of Greek deities, I'd suggest you take a look at Ancient art - and I do mean actual Ancient art, not Renaissance art supposedly inspired by Greco-Roman art.

that seems like a...lucrative career field

...no as a matter of fact, the hypocrisy of saying that considering my master’s degree in social work is not lost on me

[Iceblade44]

Camelot was better, but Babylon had taiga

What was your favorite parts of Camelot Toby

[Tobias]

Actually I enjoyed bedivere’s dilemma a great deal. They explored his thinking in an interesting fashion.

In myth bedivere seems a little more selfish, not wanting to see Excalibur thrown away, but this one realizing that when he did so would bring the end to the legend of his king, hence his hesitancy made for a great moment

[Wandering Swordwoman]

Camelot also have cute Monk

[SpoonyViking]

that seems like a...lucrative career field

Don't worry, I'm a teacher; I'm used to not having money. :-P

[Draconic]

That really was a great plot point. He was truly the most loyal knight.
I feel like Gaheris’ despair, and Gawain’s subsequent loss of humanity would be very good moments too if we ever get to see them on this side of the Pacific.

You know, all things considered, the fact that Galahad didn’t even answer her call is foreshadowing at his real personality. Even Gaheris chose a side, and she’s basically an innocent little girl. Galahad on the other hand, opposed Lion King, but his response was to let everyone kill each other, because he didn’t want to get his hands dirty and tarnish his image as the perfect knight. And as funny as it is when Mashu abruptly starts verbally abusing Lancelot, it actually becomes a little horrifying when you consider this: Galahad wouldn’t even give her the name of his Noble Phantasm. He let her flail around with a shield she didn’t know how to use, basically abandoned her despite being fully capable of taking her from 0 to 100 Right from the first singularity. But what does he see as being important? His resentment towards his depressed father, who already feels like a failure.

That’s literally the only thing he gave her without putting her to trial by fire.

[Deathhappens]

It served to give Benkei his single shining character moment.
I could have done without the "these dark feelings were inside you all along!" though.

Eh, it's true though. Ushiwakamaru might be cute on the outside but she's got a bad streak a mile wide, and it's not like she's trying to hide it. Other than her lord (which Guda has the fortune of being), both her subordinates and her enemies are nothing but trash, and since her lord betrayed her once she also has a grudge against the world in general. Ushi Alter didn't really fit that well into the Singularity as an antagonist, given its much grander scope, but the role itself fit Ushi perfectly. IMO.

[pinetree]

That really was a great plot point. He was truly the most loyal knight.
I feel like Gaheris’ despair, and Gawain’s subsequent loss of humanity would be very good moments too if we ever get to see them on this side of the Pacific.

You know, all things considered, the fact that Galahad didn’t even answer her call is foreshadowing at his real personality. Even Gaheris chose a side, and she’s basically an innocent little girl. Galahad on the other hand, opposed Lion King, but his response was to let everyone kill each other, because he didn’t want to get his hands dirty and tarnish his image as the perfect knight. And as funny as it is when Mashu abruptly starts verbally abusing Lancelot, it actually becomes a little horrifying when you consider this: Galahad wouldn’t even give her the name of his Noble Phantasm. He let her flail around with a shield she didn’t know how to use, basically abandoned her despite being fully capable of taking her from 0 to 100 Right from the first singularity. But what does he see as being important? His resentment towards his depressed father, who already feels like a failure.

That’s literally the only thing he gave her without putting her to trial by fire.

You're making a lot of assumptions there buddy.

Edit: Like, and this is not the only thing, but why are you even assuming Galahad is conscious inside Mash at all?

[Deathhappens]

That really was a great plot point. He was truly the most loyal knight.
I feel like Gaheris’ despair, and Gawain’s subsequent loss of humanity would be very good moments too if we ever get to see them on this side of the Pacific.

You know, all things considered, the fact that Galahad didn’t even answer her call is foreshadowing at his real personality. Even Gaheris chose a side, and she’s basically an innocent little girl. Galahad on the other hand, opposed Lion King, but his response was to let everyone kill each other, because he didn’t want to get his hands dirty and tarnish his image as the perfect knight. And as funny as it is when Mashu abruptly starts verbally abusing Lancelot, it actually becomes a little horrifying when you consider this: Galahad wouldn’t even give her the name of his Noble Phantasm. He let her flail around with a shield she didn’t know how to use, basically abandoned her despite being fully capable of taking her from 0 to 100 Right from the first singularity. But what does he see as being important? His resentment towards his depressed father, who already feels like a failure.

That’s literally the only thing he gave her without putting her to trial by fire.

That's not really true. In the first place, Galahad saved Mashu's life by deciding to grant her his strength at the last moment. We still don't know enough about how that process worked to know if he had the opportunity to teach her about how his powers worked or not, but given the wording of Succeed Phantasm in her profile, it doesn't seem like he actually could pass on anything else. It's not like he's a ghost hovering over her shoulder all the time, only a portion of his Spirit Origin copied onto Mash exists. As for the Lion King, given how that turned out not answering her call was probably the smartest call he could make.

[pinetree]

Eh, it's true though. Ushiwakamaru might be cute on the outside but she's got a bad streak a mile wide, and it's not like she's trying to hide it. Other than her lord (which Guda has the fortune of being), both her subordinates and her enemies are nothing but trash, and since her lord betrayed her once she also has a grudge against the world in general. Ushi Alter didn't really fit that well into the Singularity as an antagonist, given its much grander scope, but the role itself fit Ushi perfectly. IMO.

I'm perfectly aware of Ushi's character beyond surface cuteness, it's just that twisting it into some deep seethed grudge against humanity and the world brought forth and enhanced by the alteration is the most boring and cliched character conflict possible, and I couldn't care less about it.

[Bobin]

That really was a great plot point. He was truly the most loyal knight.
I feel like Gaheris’ despair, and Gawain’s subsequent loss of humanity would be very good moments too if we ever get to see them on this side of the Pacific.

You know, all things considered, the fact that Galahad didn’t even answer her call is foreshadowing at his real personality. Even Gaheris chose a side, and she’s basically an innocent little girl. Galahad on the other hand, opposed Lion King, but his response was to let everyone kill each other, because he didn’t want to get his hands dirty and tarnish his image as the perfect knight. And as funny as it is when Mashu abruptly starts verbally abusing Lancelot, it actually becomes a little horrifying when you consider this: Galahad wouldn’t even give her the name of his Noble Phantasm. He let her flail around with a shield she didn’t know how to use, basically abandoned her despite being fully capable of taking her from 0 to 100 Right from the first singularity. But what does he see as being important? His resentment towards his depressed father, who already feels like a failure.

That’s literally the only thing he gave her without putting her to trial by fire.

lol