Fate/Grand Order - English

[LegalLoliLover]

Honestly, the reason that I hesitate to actually use the phrase "SJW" is because my motivation is a goal, not an agenda against a particular group. In other words, I want something. Whose heads roll or whose ghost hands I have to trample (yes, Satsuriku no Tenshi reference) to get it is irrelevant. I believe that I had made this clear during my Columbus tomato story. His actions resulted in marinara sauce (importing tomatoes, etc.). I have nothing against Native Americans, but I won't let knowledge of what Columbus did or did not do to them stifle my enjoyment of said sauce.

[Strange_One]

mm.

preventing discussion or consideration of anything is the situation that annoys me.

Can't even learn about anything - or the subject in question - through discussion - it's "This is what it is because I or We say so. No talking back."

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Censorship is a word in English that is used widely, it's not an exclusively governmental term. So you'll hear it used in many ways regardless.
And considering how hostile and virulent social media can be, companies may want to adjust in response due to - commercial decisions.

[SpoonyViking]

Because really, the idea that Sony is somehow doing anything because of feminism is laughable.

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mm.

preventing discussion or consideration of anything is the situation that annoys me.

"Preventing".
Am I a mod? Do you see me warning or banning anyone? People are saying stupid or dishonest things, and I'm correcting them. That's AAAAALL it is.
(See, it's this level of knee-jerk reaction which helps spread the myth of "feminists are ruining media!!!!1!!!".)

[Wandering Swordwoman]

well it's not myth, there are SJW people that complain over dumb things. But I don't think the company will be moved by some dumb shits like that (well except crunchyroll though, banning Goblin Slayer from CR awards because of raped things)

[LegalLoliLover]

Because really, the idea that Sony is somehow doing anything because of feminism is laughable.

No more laughable than the removal of "Satanic references" are because of religious conservatives.

[Deathhappens]

And considering we're not communicating either in Ancient Greek (which isn't your language) or modern one, and that regardless of its roots language evolves, I'm going to ignore that as the moronic argument it is.

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Really? I'm surprised. That's basically LVL's argument, among a few others here.

It doesn't work in Modern English with the very definition you provided either.


Now, while I have more than a few choice arguments to add to the discussion, shall we return this thread to its proper course and take it elsewhere?

[SpoonyViking]

well it's not myth, there are SJW people that complain over dumb things. But I don't think the company will be moved by some dumb shits like that (well except crunchyroll though, banning Goblin Slayer from CR awards because of raped things)

And you just hit on why it's a myth. Sure, individuals from all walks of the ideological spectrum are perfectly capable of saying dumb, misguided, or malicious shit, but which ones do you think the cultural status quo reflect, the ones who say (off the top of my head) that all forms of penetrative sex are sexual violations, or the ones who think "Hey, women being raped is hot, I'd love to see more of it in my entertainment"?

ETA: Also, of both groups, which are the ones who only write "thinkpieces" on the internet and which are the ones who can (and do) organise harassment campaigns?

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It doesn't work in Modern English with the very definition you provided either.

"It doesn't work in Modern English with the very definition you provided which comes straight from an English dictionary either." Riiiight.

[Wandering Swordwoman]

And you just hit on why it's a myth. Sure, individuals from all walks of the ideological spectrum are perfectly capable of saying dumb, misguided, or malicious shit, but which ones do you think the cultural status quo reflect, the ones who say (off the top of my head) that all forms of penetrative sex are sexual violations, or the ones who think "Hey, women being raped is hot, I'd love to see more of it in my entertainment"?

ETA: Also, of both groups, which are the ones who only write "thinkpieces" on the internet and which are the ones who can (and do) organise harassment campaigns?

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"It doesn't work in Modern English with the very definition you provided which comes straight from an English dictionary either." Riiiight.

Dude, it's not like it's the first time movies, anime, manga, or novel have something like that. They are just targeting that are currently popular.
Devilman Crybaby has some really equally disgusting shit but I don't see any conflict about it

So what? Are you saying people in opposite sex fucking each other on your entertainment better? Why wasn't SAO hit by it? The raped scene are much longer there even though it's one of the most popular anime out there?

[Deathhappens]

And you just hit on why it's a myth. Sure, individuals from all walks of the ideological spectrum are perfectly capable of saying dumb, misguided, or malicious shit, but which ones do you think the cultural status quo reflect, the ones who say (off the top of my head) that all forms of penetrative sex are sexual violations, or the ones who think "Hey, women being raped is hot, I'd love to see more of it in my entertainment"?

ETA: Also, of both groups, which are the ones who only write "thinkpieces" on the internet and which are the ones who can (and do) organise harassment campaigns?

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"It doesn't work in Modern English with the very definition you provided which comes straight from an English dictionary either." Riiiight.

You quoted "hegemony", not "hegemonic". From the very same dictionary:

hegemonic/ˌhɛdʒɪˈmɒnɪk,ˌhɛɡɪˈmɒnɪk/

adjective

1. ruling or dominant in a political or social context.
   "the bourgeoisie constituted the hegemonic class"
   
   
   
   
   
   

Unless you meant to call "nerds" a dominant political group.

[SpoonyViking]

Now you're moving the discussion onto Goblin Slayer specifically, and I can't help you there because I don't care about it, nor could I compare it to, say, Devilman Crybaby, because I haven't read (watched?) it. Is it anything like the original Devilman, or is it more like Devilman Lady?

[Tobias]

So. How bout that fate go fellas? Is taiga the greatest servant or what?

[Wandering Swordwoman]

She has cool animation for a 3 star Not enough Nee-san material

[Strange_One]

I don't much care for labels, but companies will move in response to social media outrage.

In the news over here, some company pulled some awful black coloured women's shoes with a face on it because blackface.
This awful product line was available in a range of colours.

knee-jerk reaction

Hello.

I was talking in general. You are not any of those, not that I have said you were.
A lot happens in social media nowadays and it tends to be an ugly growth of human behaviour from normal pre internet society.
People don't need to have a position of power, but if a lot of people talk over someone until they don't feel like talking further - yes, that is preventing them from speaking.

And apparently I'm reactionary for feeling like this.

ETA: Also, of both groups, which are the ones who only write "thinkpieces" on the internet and which are the ones who can (and do) organise harassment campaigns?

both

And I'm watching from the sidelines thinking - Dammit people.

[SpoonyViking]

You quoted "hegemony", not "hegemonic". From the very same dictionary: [...]

The very same dictionary, huh?

Other Words from hegemony

hegemonic \ ˌhe-​jə-​ˈmä-​nik


, ˌhe-​gə-​ \ adjective

So it's intellectual dishonesty with you, then.

[Wandering Swordwoman]

Now you're moving the discussion onto Goblin Slayer specifically, and I can't help you there because I don't care about it, nor could I compare it to, say, Devilman Crybaby, because I haven't read (watched?) it. Is it anything like the original Devilman, or is it more like Devilman Lady?

Careful there, you probably don't care about it, but don't make a fuss when in hit works that you like

[Strange_One]

So. How bout that fate go fellas?

Need roll good servants reeeeeeee

[SpoonyViking]

Fine, a mod has spoken.
I've actually hit a point where I don't have many Servants I'm looking forward to. Off the top of my head, there are just Avicebron, Sieg, Sigurd, and Arthur, and if I understand it correctly, Sieg is a welfare and Avicebron can be gotten from the Friend Points pool. I'm much more interested in CEs than new Servants.

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Careful there, you probably don't care about it, but don't make a fuss when in hit works that you like

No, no. Take that sentence literally: "I can't help you there [understanding why it was pulled from Crunchyroll when other works weren't] because I don't care about it [and thus, haven't kept myself informed]".
I mean, I can speculate, but that's it.

[Wandering Swordwoman]

ooohhh

[Reign]

So. How bout that fate go fellas? Is taiga the greatest servant or what?

she's ok

[Deathhappens]

The very same dictionary, huh?

Other Words from hegemony

hegemonic \ ˌhe-​jə-​ˈmä-​nik


, ˌhe-​gə-​ \ adjective

So it's intellectual dishonesty with you, then.

No, it's really not.