Grail War RPs Discussion : Troubleshooting, Best Practices, War Stories

[SeiKeo]

First of all, I'm not sure why you would invoke Diplomacy, since I'm not sure why simultaneous resolution would make sense for Fate? And moreover once you commit to that then you have to build a really stable rulebase and combat system which is, I mean, more power to you, but good luck.

[Mellon]

All this thread has done is just remind me how much I hate the world for killing the Moon White remake. ;-;

[Draconic]

What do you guys think of a play-by-post order-based Grail War a la Diplomacy?

Basically, for clarification's sake, a more game-like Grail War where players write down and submit their actions, trading character and interaction for a more fast-paced competitive game of strategy. Not sure if something similar has been done here in the past.

Alfheimwander did something that sounds a bit like that. It was a turn-based thing based on the standard Mafia-style Play by Post RP, and it seemed to be working pretty well, but then the player, who I'm pretty sure was the 'murderer' character bailed, right after killing one of the more invested players, then two more bailed, and the game just died after that. However, fel free to try again, Zikari. It did work, we just didn't have the right players. That said, if you make it a comedy again, no will join.

[RacingeR]

I mean, it'd just be a Mafia reskin at the end of the day.

[Soldat der Trauer]

Is that necessarily a bad thing, though?

[Draconic]

I wouldn't say so.

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I mean, either way, if you don't make it, you're getting it for free, and it's still a Grail War RP. Everyone seems to want one, so not joining it if it happens would be akin to asking someone to order a pizza, them paying for it and giving it to you, and then throwing it back at them because it's plain, and they didn't get your preferred topping.

[Mellon]

I mean, either way, if you don't make it, you're getting it for free, and it's still a Grail War RP. Everyone seems to want one, so not joining it if it happens would be akin to asking someone to order a pizza, them paying for it and giving it to you, and then throwing it back at them because it's plain, and they didn't get your preferred topping.

I'm not so sure about that, honestly. In the end, the players will be only as invested as the GM is. Half-assed Grail War RPs don't really have a great track record on BL and there is a fair number dead corpses littering the RP section that never even got off the ground.

In the end, the impetus should be to make a good Grail War RP. The player engagement, well-made PCs (both Masters and Servants), and almost everything else mentioned here will come naturally if you give the players an actual setting and character creation that properly fuels their imagination.

Whereas if you make Grill... well you kinda get out what you put in. That is not to say that there is nothing wrong with Grill, but everyone already expects it to be kind of a short-term fling, rather than something truly fantastic.

Spicy memes though. Missile and Servant matryoshkas 4ever.

[Draconic]

Hey, just because it's Mafia doesn't mean the creator isn't invested in it.

[Mellon]

Hey, just because it's Mafia doesn't mean the creator isn't invested in it.

Aah, my bad. My post wasn't really referring to this idea specifically, more the general sentiment behind your statement. I'm sure that the concept itself can somehow be crafted into a viable RP.

[Milbunk]

I've gotten the details fleshed out for my new Grail War Tournament, I plan on releasing it tomorrow morning so look forward to it! Though I'll warn, it's best if you consider about wanting to play the whole three or so months the tourney is going to take and teams will be allowed so if you want to team up look for a partner!

[Milbunk]

Alright tourney is up. if you are interested join the discord chat labeled in the rulebook and state your intentions: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

[Milbunk]

Hey folks, for those of you who may remember, I started a grail war over on discord. That war is now reaching its conclusion and the final fight between the remaining teams of Rider, Lancer, and Archer is nearing its end. It has been a wild ride and I am severely impressed that we even made it to the end in the first place. However now that this war is ending me and You (the guy with the name you) are getting ready for the second edition of the war.

If you are interested in joining I will have a rulebook posted by tomorrow while the signups for the war itself will be on Wednesday. I just wanted to give you all some heads up so you can think about it and have time to join when the time is right.

Here are some of the highlights of the previous war:

Teams (Master/Servant)
Rin Tohsaka/Saber Lily
Illyasviel/Karna
Ciel/Kogil
Bazett/Medea
Tine/Sasaki Kojiro
Fujimaru Ritsuka/Perseus
Irisviel/Cu Chulainn Alter

The initial confrontation between rin and Illya where they made an alliance after saving npc Shirou.

Medea discovering the alliance and bombing the Tohsaka residence into oblivion, this caused her to retreat to the Einzbern Castle

Medea brainwashing npc Kuzuki and raiding the Einzbern Castle. By sacrificing Kuzuki she was able to kill Cu with a rain of light.

Karna's raid on the Ryuudou Temple which destroyed Medea's workshop and forced her to work with Tine.

Sasaki and Tine's defense of their workshop, the casino, agaisnt Karna.

Kogil going to school.

Fujimaru giving Shinji control of her Servant for most of the war, also the date between the two. He then proceeds to charge Rin and Saber Lily and wins.

The final raid against the outlier Servant Toyotomi Hideyoshi where Rider, Lancer, and Archer form a temporary alliance.

Karna vs Sanada, Perseus vs Motonari, and Kogil vs a brainwashed Shirou Muramasa

All three of the above vs Hideyoshi himself.

If you want to watch the final battle conclude I will link the discord you can join. Additionally this will be the same discord the next war will use and you can use it to sign up when the time comes on Wednesday.

https://discord.gg/Qt3NvzZ

[Draconic]

Any plans for another one that doesn't force players into the roles of preexisting characters?

[Milbunk]

Yes, after this one there will be a war in which players can enter whatever they want including OOC's.

[Draconic]

Okay, I'm getting in on that.

[Milbunk]

Congratulations on Bramlor's victory in the war! With his team of Fujmaru and Perseus he managed to come out on top and won the war! If you are interested in reading the final fight you can find it in the chat.

The signups for the new war will begin at the end of this timer. https://www.tickcounter.com/countdow...nup-start-time

Please either join the chat or be ready to message me when they begin. Slots will be first come first served so you'll have to be quick as there are only 14 slots available!

The phrases that are going to be used for the selection are listed in this sheet. Take some time to think them over so you can consider which one you want to use.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...MJU/edit#gid=0

[mAc Chaos]

What are the phrases for? How does it work?

[Milbunk]

Since it's on Discord the RP itself will take place there in this chat: https://discord.gg/Qt3NvzZ

Then, when signups open you choose one of the phrases and when all teams have been filled it will be revealed what team you got. The teams themselves are based on the phrases so they are like clues to what the team is. After you have gotten a team you can then veto one of the two that you got to something that you would prefer. There is already a good number of people who have already joined the chat, so if you are interested I can answer more specific questions that you may have.