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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    That spending so much of one's time hating a video game and the people who enjoy it is bizarre and unhealthy. Dullahan is obviously free to like or dislike GO as they so desire, but phrasing their opinions as if anyone who thinks differently is an intellectually inferior troglodyte is just ridiculous. And LOL, "tone policing". You're talking as if Dullahan was showing outrage at racism or sexual harassment, not a freaking mobage.
    As we all know, mobage are racism and sexual harassment via their practice.

    The legend became a thing, became reified, into a mechanical function; something that reliably effected certain results. You knew this. What you may have only dimly suspected was that under the guise of this specific crystallisation was concealed the crystallisation of everything else. This was what a Servant was, a Heroic Spirit: a crystallisation, a frozen image of the past. Compartmentalised. Lifeless, dead, mechanical in its operation. A product which operated on a plane of total consistency.
    And this is in the same sense that one can appropriate tea as a cultural practice; or pick whatever example you like. Please read onward.

    Your enjoyment blossomed from mastery in knowledge, from perceiving how nodes referenced one another.
    The practice of the legend-dex (Servants) is made to flatter pertentious cosmopolitanism.
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    That time they checked out that hot guy they were just admiring his watch, yeah?


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    "The fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men, cruel." and write pages of utter fustrations.


    (Still waiting for a possible continuation of DDD, I know it's not going to happen but let me dream)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiKeo View Post
    As we all know, mobage are racism and sexual harassment via their practice.



    And this is in the same sense that one can appropriate tea as a cultural practice; or pick whatever example you like. Please read onward.



    The practice of the legend-dex (Servants) is made to flatter pertentious cosmopolitanism.
    Kindly explain to me why turning King Arthur into a cute girl is racist against Britons.

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    Screw DDD, Dullahan has yet to update MIAL and Lio's gang's summer adventures.


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    the GO player is cool, detached, ironic in his enjoyment, a trader in second-hand reactions, second-hand emotions or hypertrophied parodies thereof, inured to everything except being told what they are

    of course, it's really not their fault, but rather the fault of the total system they participate in - we can't even qualify this with 'willingly' because the 'will' of the consumer is, insofar as it exists in the administered society, just another problem technology can resolve in favour of capital - but you have to bring the criticism back to them as people because otherwise blaming it all on the system becomes just another layer of ironic detachment they can hide behind
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    Expresses the exceeding size of one's library.
    Books are extremely many, loaded on an oxcart the ox will sweat.
    At home piled to the ridgepole of the house, from this meaning.
    Read out as 「Ushi ni ase shi, munagi ni mitsu.」
    Source: 柳宗元「其為書,處則充棟宇,出則汗牛馬。」 Tang Dynasty


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    Actually, Seikeo's tea ceremony example reminds me of something. Does woke SJ culture (for lack of a better term) even believe that Japan can culturally appropriate from the West? I can't recall seeing Japan get any criticism for blatantly appropriating Christian symbolism and iconography in their pop culture, even though Christians were definitely a persecuted historical minority there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Kindly explain to me why turning King Arthur into a cute girl is racist against Britons.
    Britons are not an extant people; presumably, you are thinking of Englishpersons, who are dealt injury by the decontextualization and aestheticization of their national symbols.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Actually, Seikeo's tea ceremony example reminds me of something. Does woke SJ culture (for lack of a better term) even believe that Japan can culturally appropriate from the West? I can't recall seeing Japan get any criticism for blatantly appropriating Christian symbolism and iconography in their pop culture, even though Christians were definitely a persecuted historical minority there.
    51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
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    That time they checked out that hot guy they were just admiring his watch, yeah?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dullahan View Post
    the GO player is cool, detached, ironic in his enjoyment, a trader in second-hand reactions, second-hand emotions or hypertrophied parodies thereof, inured to everything except being told what they are

    of course, it's really not their fault, but rather the fault of the total system they participate in - we can't even qualify this with 'willingly' because the 'will' of the consumer is, insofar as it exists in the administered society, just another problem technology can resolve in favour of capital - but you have to bring the criticism back to them as people because otherwise blaming it all on the system becomes just another layer of ironic detachment they can hide behind
    man, one of these days we are going to see you metaphorically living in the streets in a giant ceramic barrel while insulting every fgoer in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBeowulf View Post
    man, one of these days we are going to see you metaphorically living in the streets in a giant ceramic barrel while insulting every fgoer in the world.
    A shepherd, Simeon entered a monastic community, but, because of his excessive austerities, he was expelled and became a hermit. His reputed miracle-working generated popular veneration to such a degree that to escape the importunities of the people, he began his pillar life northwest of Aleppo. His first column was 6 feet (2 m) high, later extended to about 50 feet (15 m). He remained atop the column until his death, permanently exposed to the elements, standing or sitting day and night in his restricted area, protected from falling by a railing, and provided with a ladder to communicate with those below or to receive meagre gifts of food from disciples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    That time they checked out that hot guy they were just admiring his watch, yeah?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiKeo View Post
    Britons are not an extant people; presumably, you are thinking of Englishpersons, who are dealt injury by the decontextualization and aestheticization of their national symbols.
    Did you ever play with Lego as a kid? It's the same principle here. Deconstructing something and putting it back together into something new isn't an insult, it's the greatest possible compliment that can be given to the original work. Believe it or not, lots of people playing/reading Fate do so because they genuinely love myth and history, and express that love by taking its various elements and using them to make new stories.

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    Dear Sir Thomas Malory,

    We were overjoyed to receive your manuscript of Le Morte Darthur and wasted no time in reading it. On the whole our editorial staff were extremely positive regarding this compilation of folk tales, but we have a few minor points we would discuss with you before moving to the next stage with publication.

    1) Have you considered moving the action to the Orient - Cathay or even fabled Cipangu? A setting less immediately familiar to the readership might heighten the mythic atmosphere and sense of deep antiquity your collection draws upon.

    2) The character of Arthur did not scan well with focus groups. It is no longer the thirteenth century, my Lord! In terms of appealing to the target market, he would be better served as a virginal maid or pure-hearted-peasant-girl character. Perhaps draw inspiration from that French maid who was burned at Rouen a while back?

    3) Furthermore - again with regard to the interests of the present market - we would prefer more lewd and explicit content; the account of the adulteress Guinevere is a good start, but - drawing on the previous suggestion - perhaps this 'Arthuria' could display familiarity with, so to speak, the Continental vices...certainly a superficial contradiction with a virginal and high-minded presentation, but we trust a compiler of your standing will have no trouble making the necessary adjustments.

    Kind regards,

    Posterity
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    Expresses the exceeding size of one's library.
    Books are extremely many, loaded on an oxcart the ox will sweat.
    At home piled to the ridgepole of the house, from this meaning.
    Read out as 「Ushi ni ase shi, munagi ni mitsu.」
    Source: 柳宗元「其為書,處則充棟宇,出則汗牛馬。」 Tang Dynasty


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    I'd read Mallory and Chrtien shitposting at each other through letters all day tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dullahan View Post
    Dear Sir Thomas Malory,

    We were overjoyed to receive your manuscript of Le Morte Darthur and wasted no time in reading it. On the whole our editorial staff were extremely positive regarding this compilation of folk tales, but we have a few minor points we would discuss with you before moving to the next stage with publication.

    1) Have you considered moving the action to the Orient - Cathay or even fabled Cipangu? A setting less immediately familiar to the readership might heighten the mythic atmosphere and sense of deep antiquity your collection draws upon.

    2) The character of Arthur did not scan well with focus groups. It is no longer the thirteenth century, my Lord! In terms of appealing to the target market, he would be better served as a virginal maid or pure-hearted-peasant-girl character. Perhaps draw inspiration from that French maid who was burned at Rouen a while back?

    3) Furthermore - again with regard to the interests of the present market - we would prefer more lewd and explicit content; the account of the adulteress Guinevere is a good start, but - drawing on the previous suggestion - perhaps this 'Arthuria' could display familiarity with, so to speak, the Continental vices...certainly a superficial contradiction with a virginal and high-minded presentation, but we trust a compiler of your standing will have no trouble making the necessary adjustments.

    Kind regards,

    Posterity
    Then, in a strange turn of events, Thomas Malory became a caster class servant in fgo next week

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Jesus Christ, I thought I could be a pretentious asshole but this guy is on another level altogether. 70% of Dullahan's posts could probably be replaced with "Are you stupid?" and the conversation would still make sense.
    If someone is asking you whether you're stupid, you should reflect and honestly answer the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dullahan View Post
    Dear Sir Thomas Malory,

    We were overjoyed to receive your manuscript of Le Morte Darthur and wasted no time in reading it. On the whole our editorial staff were extremely positive regarding this compilation of folk tales, but we have a few minor points we would discuss with you before moving to the next stage with publication.

    1) Have you considered moving the action to the Orient - Cathay or even fabled Cipangu? A setting less immediately familiar to the readership might heighten the mythic atmosphere and sense of deep antiquity your collection draws upon.

    2) The character of Arthur did not scan well with focus groups. It is no longer the thirteenth century, my Lord! In terms of appealing to the target market, he would be better served as a virginal maid or pure-hearted-peasant-girl character. Perhaps draw inspiration from that French maid who was burned at Rouen a while back?

    3) Furthermore - again with regard to the interests of the present market - we would prefer more lewd and explicit content; the account of the adulteress Guinevere is a good start, but - drawing on the previous suggestion - perhaps this 'Arthuria' could display familiarity with, so to speak, the Continental vices...certainly a superficial contradiction with a virginal and high-minded presentation, but we trust a compiler of your standing will have no trouble making the necessary adjustments.

    Kind regards,

    Posterity
    So, making your own story that takes elements from an earlier one implies you think the original never should've been written? What a load of tripe. I also find it ironic that you complain about legends being "frozen in time" while insisting that any attempt to diverge from the original material is inherently debasing and appropriative. (Never mind that for a story as fragmented as King Arthur's, the concept of an "original telling" is effectively meaningless.)

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    while insisting that any attempt to diverge from the original material is debasing and appropriative
    citation needed. it's not about diverging from the original material in itself, it's about why and in what form the divergence happens. if you take the text and rework it by reinscribing it within a limited register of anime stereotypes and market expections, the problem is not that you are reworking it, it's what you're reworking it into - and in a broader sense it's about what kinds of reworking overarching systems of cultural production encourage and what kinds they do not
    かん
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    Expresses the exceeding size of one's library.
    Books are extremely many, loaded on an oxcart the ox will sweat.
    At home piled to the ridgepole of the house, from this meaning.
    Read out as 「Ushi ni ase shi, munagi ni mitsu.」
    Source: 柳宗元「其為書,處則充棟宇,出則汗牛馬。」 Tang Dynasty


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dullahan View Post
    the problem is not that you are reworking it, it's what you're reworking it into
    why is it a problem?

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    because anime is bad
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    Expresses the exceeding size of one's library.
    Books are extremely many, loaded on an oxcart the ox will sweat.
    At home piled to the ridgepole of the house, from this meaning.
    Read out as 「Ushi ni ase shi, munagi ni mitsu.」
    Source: 柳宗元「其為書,處則充棟宇,出則汗牛馬。」 Tang Dynasty


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    wrong, seikon no qwaser is art

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    I love my friend Seika, and you should all stop bullying my friend Dullahan. End transmission.

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