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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    Sorry to inform you but Karna is literally a god even in the source material

    And sorry he killed your dogs and is a better character than your favorite characters too
    1)Only after he died. That's also moment he stopped matter even more then before
    2)I am cat person, which already prove my exquisite taste and entitle me to say how much Karna suck. Apocrypha level suck, to be exact.
    3) I really doubt he would be able win against dog If I had one. Karna is specialist in loosing to weaklings, after all.
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    1)Only after he died. That's also moment he stopped matter even more then before
    In dead still end up being much more relevant than Mordred, whom accomplish nothing even in life i guess.

    2)I am cat person, which already prove my exquisite taste and entitle me to say how much Karna suck. Apocrypha level suck, to be exact.
    >Exquisite taste
    >Liking obsessive daddy issue one-noted character

    Funny

    3) I really doubt he would be able win against dog If I had one. Karna is specialist in loosing to weaklings, after all.
    The same weakling that almost beat Mordred without all the deus ex machina nor combat experience he got later and only lost because his time run out, i guess that just proved who's the better expert in sucking
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    I'm inclined to side with Altaris on this one, ancient indian nuclear weapons are sexy

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    Mordred ended rule of Arthuria. He also offed Adam and Seramis. So certainly she did good job. As for Karna yeah he almost beat her, he also almost beat Vlad and of course he also almost beat Arjuna several times. No matter how you look on it he is very poor in finishing his job

    Let's be honest if no Deux ex machina were involved he probably would have to just make one
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    He's also one of Nasu's husbandos though, which is how he can be wanked to 50/50 serious Gil odds, I wouldn't underestimate such connections if I were you

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    Lmao.

    Mordred ended rule of Arthuria
    Yay congrat, destroying is easier than actually building something i guess. That's why she's not chosen as the king. Because she's a sulky little child who crave for attention and throw a tantrum when she doesn't get it. Also the kingdom was fated to fall regardless, she rode the coattail of a failling realms with multiple issues and drama. Big achievement lol.

    He also offed Adam
    With Sieg, Jeanne, Chiron, etc ... Wow. Big individual accomplishment there

    Seramis
    Without Kairi and Semiramis even bother trying to make it Hydra poison, she lost hard lmao. And she died from that as well.

    he almost beat her, he also almost beat Vlad and of course he also almost beat Arjuna several times. No matter how you look on it he is very poor in beating others and got offed by Sieg of all people. lol
    He beat Hakuno team in CCC, beat the entire faction of Altera (including Servants who are much better than Mordred) on his own in Extella, beat Arjuna in America, beat Mashu/Gudao/Nightingale team. All by himself.

    Want more examples ?

    Come back when Mordred actually accomplished anything noteworthy by herself. She got almost trashed in close combat by Chiron who is an Archer and was almost beaten by Sieg of all people when he doesn't know what the fuck he was doing lol. That's more embarassing
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    Can't argue about CCC but otherwise, all apocrypha events I pointed on are noteworthy. Succeeding with help is still more impressive than failing in both building and destroying alone.

    Also Chiron is strong enough to deserve that draw. Sieg wasn't even to beating her close though.

    Regardless even if Mordred was terrible character and weakling (which she isn't), it still wouldn't make look Karna any better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenzen12 View Post
    It wasn't Nasu who wanked him though, but even putting that as side wanked jobber is still jobber.
    Nasu himself said Karna vs Gil was 50/50

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    Mordred is voiced by Sawashiro, therefore objectively higher tier than any husbando not voiced by Kamiya, Sugita, Nakamura or at least Koyasu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenzen12 View Post
    It wasn't Nasu who wanked him though, but even putting that as side wanked jobber is still jobber.
    The irony when Mordred was written and wanked by 3 different writers, yet still did not defeat anyone of note by herself

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    I can't at all relate to this discussion as all my favorites are losers.

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    Neither did Cu. He is still cool guy and more useful then Karna

    And again winning with support, is still win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenzen12 View Post
    Neither did Cu. He is still cool guy and more useful then Karna

    And again winning with support, is still win.
    Wew so we totally ignore every good thing Karnadid and every loss that Mordred job because that's more convenient for your arguments right ?

    I guess that's what living in a bubble feel like

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    Karna didn't do anything significant and I can't ignore something that doesn't exist. As for Mo, you can't be always winner, but anyone would look good when compared to ineffectual looser.

    BTW, if you really need continue this kind of conversation, you probably should make new thread. I would gladly continue bash Karna there. Here were are getting bit off topic.
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    Generally girls don't kill you, they do more of the emotional blackmail and social drama destruction thing
    Unless they're Sakura!
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    canon finish apo vol 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenzen12 View Post
    Karna didn't do anything significant and I can't ignore something that doesn't exist. As for Mo, you can't be always winner, but anyone would look good when compared to ineffectual looser.

    BTW, if you really need continue this kind of conversation, you probably should make new thread. I would gladly continue bash Karna there. Here were are getting bit off topic.

    Nah all you've showed so far is hilariously biasness and refuse to acknowledge anything unless it suits your personal agenda borderlining trollish at this point

    I have better things to do than continuing this farce. Please save yourself the embarassment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    Nah all you've showed so far is hilariously biasness and refuse to acknowledge anything unless it suits your personal agenda borderlining trollish at this point

    I have better things to do than continuing this farce. Please save yourself the embarassment
    This is a guy who unironically believes that Narita wrote the Mordred/Kairi segments of Apocrypha instead of Higashide, bail while you can
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    This is a guy who unironically believes that Narita wrote the Mordred/Kairi segments of Apocrypha instead of Higashide, bail while you can
    Oh lol that's hilarious. No wonder no one bother engaging in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    This is a guy who unironically believes that Narita wrote the Mordred/Kairi segments of Apocrypha instead of Higashide, bail while you can
    Hey I said that in good fun. Don't make silly accusations. Especially as I at least kept discussion on level of arguments instead personal attacks.

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