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    Ah yes, Chiron will lose if they kept fighting, he knew that so he retreated.

    Sieg has siegfried body with invincibility even Karna only managed to give shallow wounds, also Mordred only wanted to test him at first, but he managed to wound her then she became more serious

    Karna didn't have much achievement beside those visual breaking animation in Apocrypha because he became the antagonist and face the main character, so he need to lose. He'll be succeed in burning Sieg if Astolfo didn't bullshitly pull out Akhilleus Kosmos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow View Post
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    i refuse to read a single post in this thread and refuse to believe a thread with this title has garnered 3 pages of discussion/shitposting/unrelated talk about karna or wtv
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    This thread as a whole is a meme.

    Wake me up when Shirou can finally transform into a giant sword like how Sieg can transfrom into Bahamut. Thanks

    Re Mordred/Karna. Maybe it's part of natural order to have Mordred fans to hate Karna. But I digress.


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    Wake me up when pink sakura become a good female protag
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    Honestly I feel like Shirou is more imteresting by his multiple developments.
    Hiwever Grand order redeemed Sieg a bit for me since we get a post Apocrypha development where we see Sieg coping with his situation and the fact that he is alone and even when the Event kicks in we see him realizing that his companionns don't recognize him.
    It isn't much compared to Shirou but it is still better than in Apocrypha. Plus I do dislike early Shirou more than ealry Sieg.

    So for me it goes like this : Early Shirou and Prisma Shirou (Illya world ver) < Sieg (Apocrypha) < Shirou (Fate) < Sieg (FGO) < Shirou (other routes including the EMIYA and Miyu's brother)
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    TBH I've always been more invested in the servants and the other characters rather than the protagonists in Fate series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GundamFSN View Post
    This thread as a whole is a meme.

    Wake me up when Shirou can finally transform into a giant sword like how Sieg can transfrom into Bahamut. Thanks

    Re Mordred/Karna. Maybe it's part of natural order to have Mordred fans to hate Karna. But I digress.
    As Mordred fan, I don't hate Karna any more then Vlad, Siegfried, Avicebron, Fran or Jackie. Astolfo is pretty much only one I actively dislike. Problem is all aforementioned servants are bland and uninteresting. So if nothing else it's not like I am trying single Karna as only bad character, OK?

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    As Mordred fan, I don't hate Karna any more then Vlad, Siegfried, Avicebron, Fran or Jackie. Astolfo is pretty much only one I actively dislike. Problem is all aforementioned servants are bland and uninteresting
    Try to read/watch more than just Apocrypha

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    I am fairly confident about my literacy. Knowledge of what kind of novels or cinematic production do I lack according to your opinion? I am open broaden my horizons anytime.

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    You seems like you base your entire opinion on those characters from Apocrypha, which gave all of them like a fraction of characterization barring Astolfo.

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    Well, yeah we are talking about apocrypha characters here. I know about their backgrounds, but historical/mythical figures are not same as theit Type-moon counterpart. It depends on author how well they can combine myth with own interpretation of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenzen12 View Post
    Well, yeah we are talking about apocrypha characters here. I know about their backgrounds, but historical/mythical figures are not same as theit Type-moon counterpart. It depends on author how well they can combine myth with own interpretation.
    They appear in more Type-Moon works than just Apocrypha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    They appear in more Type-Moon works than just Apocrypha.
    Regardless, it's still fair to judge them solely as Apocrypha characters, even if, say, Karna showed up before in Extra (or was it CCC?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    Regardless, it's still fair to judge them solely as Apocrypha characters, even if, say, Karna showed up before in Extra (or was it CCC?).
    Sure. But you're doing those characters a disservice by not actually giving them a proper chance to appeal. Because what they do in Apoc are barely better than a cameo.

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    That's why they're bad characters, seems simple
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    Lack of screen time in a badly written works =/= being bad characters, especially for characters who have great characterization in another work by the primary author

    Or we simply disagree on our definiton
    Last edited by Altaris; May 19th, 2018 at 01:39 PM.

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    We can say that all of developement of these characters are scrapped out for a Homonculus that no one care about.
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    Karna can be most awesome servants ever in CC, but he is still terrible in Apo. As far as I am concerned they can be as well completely different characters.

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    Well they have different writers
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