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    Would some stands be considered on the the level of True magic? Like THE WORLD and STAR PLATINUM?
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    Probably not. Time manipulation on the level of extreme slowdown is still magecraft.
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    I just said "on the level" because I'm not sure whether The World's ability is said extreme slowing down of time or outright time stop. The difference is academic, though.
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    Isn't "on the level of True Magic" just a meaningless bullshit expression used in the narrative so that the reader knows that X is really awesome?

    You know, like "A Reality Marble? That's on the level of True Magic!" "Teleportation? That's on the level of True Magic!" "Rin's Zettai Ryouiki? That's on the level of True Magic!" etc, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desuclocker View Post
    I just said "on the level" because I'm not sure whether The World's ability is said extreme slowing down of time or outright time stop. The difference is academic, though.
    It's outright timestop i believe.
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    I dunno, some stands are pretty out there.

    Like Full power Killer Queen, D4, Bohemian Rhapsody, Stairway to Heaven, Weather Report and GE Requiem

    Those are things we aint never going to be able to do.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenieth View Post
    I dunno, some stands are pretty out there.

    Like Full power Killer Queen, D4, Bohemian Rhapsody, Stairway to Heaven, Weather Report and GE Requiem

    Those are things we aint never going to be able to do.
    I wonder if GER could kill a type, probably maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desuclocker View Post
    I just said "on the level" because I'm not sure whether The World's ability is said extreme slowing down of time or outright time stop. The difference is academic, though.
    I mean, I was agreeing with you, it was mostly directed to the other guy.

    True Magic is about impossibilities. There are things that are outright more immediately destructive or personally powerful. Aoko with True Magic still isn't necessarily going to be able to fuck up a high tier Servant or such. But she can do something that other's can't.

    So, like, I don't think The World is True Magic-esque, it's got better comparisons to Time Alter or such. If it started to, say, absorb time from a parallel dimension...well, now you're getting there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    I mean, I was agreeing with you, it was mostly directed to the other guy.

    True Magic is about impossibilities. There are things that are outright more immediately destructive or personally powerful. Aoko with True Magic still isn't necessarily going to be able to fuck up a high tier Servant or such. But she can do something that other's can't.

    So, like, I don't think The World is True Magic-esque, it's got better comparisons to Time Alter or such. If it started to, say, absorb time from a parallel dimension...well, now you're getting there.
    I can agree with you on that, but some stands are just True magic level like D4C which is basically 2nd magic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    Your examples of Star Platinum and The World are not comparable. That's all I was saying.
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    Artoria as a Servant, summoned properly to her home turf by an excellent and compatible Master vs. Ostarion the Wraith King from Defense of the Ancients, at full power, with Power Threads, Blademail, Octarine Core, Refresher Orb, Heart of Tarrasque, an eaten Moon Shard and a Divine Rapier. No retainers.
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    The Wraith King can get rekt by a bar brawler, what kind of contest is that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenieth View Post
    I dunno, some stands are pretty out there.

    Like Full power Killer Queen, D4, Bohemian Rhapsody, Stairway to Heaven, Weather Report and GE Requiem

    Those are things we aint never going to be able to do.
    Nasuverse humans can do bullshit like time travel though, they are definitely more advanced than IRL. And Tesla recreated Zeus thunder which is so powerful it can create rifts in space time.

    I don't know about Bohemiam Rhapsody and Weather Report being comparable to Magic. The former seems comparable to Flat Snark, but that's still not Magic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Council View Post
    Artoria as a Servant, summoned properly to her home turf by an excellent and compatible Master vs. Ostarion the Wraith King from Defense of the Ancients, at full power, with Power Threads, Blademail, Octarine Core, Refresher Orb, Heart of Tarrasque, an eaten Moon Shard and a Divine Rapier. No retainers.
    Most of those things would do literally nothing, given that it isn't a video game. Increasing HP and damage doesn't do jack shit when your opponent can just kill you by chopping your head off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddyak View Post
    Increasing HP [...] doesn't do jack shit when your opponent can just kill you by chopping your head off.
    Well, presumably, increasing HP would somehow make it more difficult for your opponent to chop your head off ("There can be only one!"), especially if using D&D's actual definition of HPs (although I have the impression Nasu uses the term in a JRPG sense).

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    Nasuverse humans can do bullshit like time travel though,[...]
    I thought that was just Zelretch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    I thought that was just Zelretch?
    Nah, as of FGO humans can time travel with technology, or I think it's technology and not magecraft? (correct me if I'm wrong). Either way it became something humans can do.
    The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
    For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
    Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.

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