Badass Versus Thread

[OG_Procupine]

“…Damn it, I couldn’t dodge it.”
Saber of Red muttered that in a calm manner.
‘Come on, don’t say that. Shouldn’t you be thinking how great it is that at least you weren’t disintegrated?’
‘Shut up. It would have been better if you used the Command Spell one second sooner, Master.’
‘It wouldn’t have changed anything. In the first place, you shouldn’t have received any injuries when I transported you outside of the danger zone. But that lightning chased after you and even tried to drag you back into the center of it… Most likely, Berserker was ordered to [kill Saber of Red] with a Command Spell. That’s what caused you to sustain injuries.’
With the additional support of a Command Spell, it had truly been a fully-powered attack. The only way to have survived it was with a Command Spell of their own.
Saber of Red’s Master, Shishigou Kairi, hadn’t hesitated to use it. He ordered her to withdraw to somewhere safe with a Command Spell. A ‘teleportation’ that was nearly equivalent to the concept of time already tread upon the domain of sorcery. The reason Shishigou Kairi, a mere magus, was able to use this highest level of spells that even a witch from the Age of Gods could only use in their personal domain was thanks to the enormous amount of prana contained in the Command Spell.
…And even after all that, Saber still wasn’t completely unscathed.
Caules’ Command Spell had also crossed into the concept of space, and as a result had distorted even cause and effect to make theBlasted Tree hit Saber of Red.
But the Command Spell’s abundant prana was consumed in order to do that, and so hadn’t been able to add its power to the Noble Phantasm’s output itself. As a result, Saber of Red had gotten away with only severe wounds. It would take a bit of time, but healing those injuries was easy.

Wait, so it didn't power up the NP?

[Siriel]

And because I forgot to actually answer, yes, DIO can survive decapitation just fine.

[Embrace tophats]

The time stop does, though DIO can more or less spam it.

The FTL flying spirit punchman has no stated time limit.



Chariot is pretty irrelevant because you can't really run on a guy who can fly and stop time.

Invincibility is the only reason this is even a discussion.

Fight Me IRL won't do anything because all of DIO's power is his own.

Shield is not particularly useful against someone that mobile, it's not like DIO is going to fire a giant laser or something.

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Because DIO has an FTL flying spirit bodyguard that Achilles won't be able to get past?

Also Achilles isn't exactly the kind to ignore discussions in a fight.

1- so, that bow never existed and i just imagined it?
2- getting shield bashed does not require beamu

[Siriel]

1- so, that bow never existed and i just imagined it?
2- getting shield bashed does not require beamu

The bow awakened the Stand, but the Stand is DIO's. Even if you train using special equipment, Achilles cannot make your muscles disappear.

Let me know how continuously pushing a guy who can fly and stop time goes for you.

[Zurvan]

Chariot is pretty irrelevant because you can't really run on a guy who can fly and stop time.

Invincibility is the only reason this is even a discussion.

Fight Me IRL won't do anything because all of DIO's power is his own.

Shield is not particularly useful against someone that mobile, it's not like DIO is going to fire a giant laser or something.

Because DIO has an FTL flying spirit bodyguard that Achilles won't be able to get past?

Also Achilles isn't exactly the kind to ignore discussions in a fight.

Well if by his own power you mean some shady mask, yeah sure.
I figured maybe the shield could be used in some gimmicky way since it blocks up to Anti-world and maybe it did something. So yeah that was stupid on my part.
As for those last two statements. Yeah Achilles isn't gonna win.

[Embrace tophats]

She got hit by the explosion, she just didn't take the extra damage from the CS.

a B rank NP. the most average of NPs.

[Bobin]

"Fucking Mama armor". not a difficult concept to get

No, but this doesn't answer if Karna's armor leave his head anymore vulnerable than any other part of his body.

[Embrace tophats]

The bow awakened the Stand, but the Stand is DIO's. Even if you train using special equipment, Achilles cannot make your muscles disappear.

Let me know how continuously pushing a guy who can fly and stop time goes for you.

but if the bow is divine or from a force higher than humans it should still work since all it require is "an ability that was given to you by a force higher than humans"

since when can Dio fly?

the same way that pushing you through buildings hurts like getting punched in the skull by a stand works

[Siriel]

Well if by his own power you mean some shady mask, yeah sure.

I was referring to The World. Being a vampire is actually pretty irrelevant for part 3 Dio aside from the regeneration it gives him, and I guess the flesh buds.

But that NP doesn't take away that sort of things, and Achilles only uses it when it's required so he can have a proper fight anyway.

[Dartz]

“…Damn it, I couldn’t dodge it.”
Saber of Red muttered that in a calm manner.
‘Come on, don’t say that. Shouldn’t you be thinking how great it is that at least you weren’t disintegrated?’
‘Shut up. It would have been better if you used the Command Spell one second sooner, Master.’
‘It wouldn’t have changed anything. In the first place, you shouldn’t have received any injuries when I transported you outside of the danger zone. But that lightning chased after you and even tried to drag you back into the center of it… Most likely, Berserker was ordered to [kill Saber of Red] with a Command Spell. That’s what caused you to sustain injuries.’
With the additional support of a Command Spell, it had truly been a fully-powered attack. The only way to have survived it was with a Command Spell of their own.
Saber of Red’s Master, Shishigou Kairi, hadn’t hesitated to use it. He ordered her to withdraw to somewhere safe with a Command Spell. A ‘teleportation’ that was nearly equivalent to the concept of time already tread upon the domain of sorcery. The reason Shishigou Kairi, a mere magus, was able to use this highest level of spells that even a witch from the Age of Gods could only use in their personal domain was thanks to the enormous amount of prana contained in the Command Spell.
…And even after all that, Saber still wasn’t completely unscathed.
Caules’ Command Spell had also crossed into the concept of space, and as a result had distorted even cause and effect to make theBlasted Tree hit Saber of Red.
But the Command Spell’s abundant prana was consumed in order to do that, and so hadn’t been able to add its power to the Noble Phantasm’s output itself. As a result, Saber of Red had gotten away with only severe wounds. It would take a bit of time, but healing those injuries was easy.

You proved me right dude. It says right there that it wasn't able to add the extra power of the CS, but she still got hit.

[Zurvan]

I was referring to The World. Being a vampire is actually pretty irrelevant for part 3 Dio aside from the regeneration it gives him, and I guess the flesh buds.

Also the part that actually started this debate. The bloodsucking vampire part that gets past achilles

[Embrace tophats]

No, but this doesn't answer if Karna's armor leave his head anymore vulnerable than any other part of his body.

wasn't talking to you.

all we know is that it "merged with his skin" that doesn't mean it covers the entirety of his skin. i can put boiling plastic on top of my arm and have it attach itself do definetly to my arm you can say that it merged with it. doesn't mean that all of my skin is going to be covered in plastic.

please go read his fight with Vlad one more time to see what i am getting at.

[Siriel]

but if the bow is divine or from a force higher than humans it should still work since all it require is "an ability that was given to you by a force higher than humans"

No, it takes away gifts and blessings.
The arrow stimulates your potential to awaken a Stand, killing you if you don't have it. It's the person's own power being released.

What you're talking about might work for Requiem upgrades, but not just regular Stand awakening.

since when can Dio fly?

Hell if I know, but he does it against Jotaro.

[Embrace tophats]

I was referring to The World. Being a vampire is actually pretty irrelevant for part 3 Dio aside from the regeneration it gives him, and I guess the flesh buds.

But that NP doesn't take away that sort of things, and Achilles only uses it when it's required so he can have a proper fight anyway.

are we talking about the regen that gives him the stamina to spam time stop? because i would think losing that would be a pretty major blow

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You proved me right dude. Thanks for doing my job for me.

now go read the 2 other comments meant for you afterwards

[Zurvan]

No, but this doesn't answer if Karna's armor leave his head anymore vulnerable than any other part of his body.

The answer is, there is no weakspot. Though I you could see(get it) that a spear piercing your face and eyes(get it now?) would be a disadvantage.

[Bobin]

Dio does it against Jotaro for the sake of dramatic effect, but being Jojo is could just mean he can flat out fly.

[Siriel]

are we talking about the regen that gives him the stamina to spam time stop?

Never actually stated, as far as I'm aware.

[Embrace tophats]

No, it takes away gifts and blessings.
The arrow stimulates your potential to awaken a Stand, killing you if you don't have it. It's the person's own power being released.

What you're talking about might work for Requiem upgrades, but not just regular Stand awakening.



Hell if I know, but he does it against Jotaro.

1-in the spoiler thread and some other material i read it says that it takes away anything given to you by higher powers. we have several talks about that specific restriction of the ability.

2- wasn't talking about what the bow does, but where it came from

[Bobin]

wasn't talking to you.

all we know is that it "merged with his skin" that doesn't mean it covers the entirety of his skin. i can put boiling plastic on top of my arm and have it attach itself do definetly to my arm you can say that it merged with it. doesn't mean that all of my skin is going to be covered in plastic.

please go read his fight with Vlad one more time to see what i am getting at.

Yeah, post the source quoting what your talking about.

[LeadDemon]

1-in the spoiler thread and some other material i read it says that it takes away anything given to you by higher powers. we have several talks about that specific restriction of the ability.

2- wasn't talking about what the bow does, but where it came from

You're conflating stuff. It takes away third-party interference.