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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    Obviously nobody's gonna guess Mordred right off the bat, she even has a NP specifically to prevent that.
    We're talking appearance/character alone and from a general PoV. Not just from the story.

    Mordred's character traits aren't very distinctive and she's really not alone here. Chiron, Astolfo, Jack, Achilles, Spartacus, Semiramis, Avicebron fit the bill too.

    Fran, Shakespeare, Atalanta, Siegfried and to a lesser extent Vlad can be pinned down by a few choice words or features.

    But I guess this also depends on how these heroes' lore are changed in-verse. I mean, I don't think anyone IRL is really going to guess Karna's identity just by his appearance and general conduct. Being white as snow definitely doesn't help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenieth View Post
    I like how most folks examples have everything to do with thinga otger than their appearance.

    Vlad is a dark broody guy with blonde hair

    Chiron is generic rpg npc with a tail

    Jack is a stripper loli

    Mordred is a knight (GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE!)

    Karna is an albino with cloud strife hair, heterochromia, giant fur and a tight black body suit

    Shakespeare looks like any random fuck from the renaissance

    Is Semiramis an Assyrian Queen or a lilithsoft girl? The answer will surprise you

    Astolfo... Just astolfo

    Fran could be Frankenstein, or some famous bride or a fucking unicorn

    Achilles is as generic as Chiron, but this time he's an rpg party member rather than faceless npc

    Spartacus because bdsm was really the defining trait of gladiators

    Siegfried is a shitty rpg character design. From a mobile game.

    What even is Avicebron?
    Siegfried is given away by the whole bared back thing, but to be honest I wouldn't say most of the Servant's identities are that obvious.

    I mean, a good chunk of people thought Chiron was freaking Genghis Khan from his initial design, for God's sake.

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    remember when we all thought Saber was Jeanne when we first started the VN up
    Or am i just gilles?
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
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    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
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    You want obvious characters

    Arjuna is obvious

    Anne and Mary is god damn obvious

    Caesar is obvious

    Billy the Kid is obvious

    Blackbeard is obvious

    Ramses is obvious

    Those are heroes you look at and think "There's only five people tops you could be. And they're all from the same mythos/region."
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    Actually, Vlad might be one of the easiest to figure out.

    He should have quite a few portraits to his name looking as he does in Fate.

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    Thanks to apoc anime, Vlad's the only guy with true to life portraits. That's a special case.



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    i want to see nasuverse marie portraits

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenieth View Post
    Caesar is obvious
    sorry wat

    Fat dude with overly decorative sword and mad sword skillz is obvious as the near-anorexic-going-by-historical-busts guy who was stabbed to death by a bunch of old politicians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    remember when we all thought Saber was Jeanne when we first started the VN up
    Or am i just gilles?
    I don't remember thinking she was Jeanne, I was too focused on the invisible sword to have even thought of Jeanne.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    I mean, a good chunk of people thought Chiron was freaking Genghis Khan from his initial design, for God's sake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddyak View Post
    sorry wat

    Fat dude with overly decorative sword and mad sword skillz is obvious as the near-anorexic-going-by-historical-busts guy who was stabbed to death by a bunch of old politicians?

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    Literally wearing a laurel wreath. Which is blatantly shouting to everyone "LOOK AT ME, I AM A ROMAN EMPEROR"



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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Siegfried is given away by the whole bared back thing, but to be honest I wouldn't say most of the Servant's identities are that obvious.

    I mean, a good chunk of people thought Chiron was freaking Genghis Khan from his initial design, for God's sake.
    I'm not sure why you sound so surprised at people thinking he could have been Genghis Khan from the initial designs. The fact that there was an NP name seemingly connected to the Mongol Empire in Xanadu Matrix definitely didn't help on the assumption front either.

    EDIT: I mean to me the Xanadu thing suggested Kublai Khan rather than Genghis, but potato tomato.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vagrant View Post
    I'm not sure why you sound so surprised at people thinking he could have been Genghis Khan from the initial designs. The fact that there was an NP name seemingly connected to the Mongol Empire in Xanadu Matrix definitely didn't help on the assumption front either.

    EDIT: I mean to me the Xanadu thing suggested Kublai Khan rather than Genghis, but potato tomato.
    Not unreasonable, just funny that the guy people thought was one of the world's most infamous brutal rampaging warlords turned out to be the peaceful gentle teacher with the aura of a forest Chiron.

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    You know whose servant identity is the most obvious? Archer Emiya's. You just have to compare the eyebrows and see who else's is on identical fleek levels. You have the literal only candidate on your screen for like 70% of screentime too.

    Fear the unibrow? More like, fear the lightningbrow.

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    My friend didn't get it until most of the way through UBW who Archer was. So yeah...

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    It helps that Takeuchi's VN era art has few defining features to distract the eye from Chekhov's eyebrows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenieth View Post
    Literally wearing a laurel wreath. Which is blatantly shouting to everyone "LOOK AT ME, I AM A ROMAN EMPEROR"
    Huh.

    I actually had either not noticed that, or completely forgotten it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Not unreasonable, just funny that the guy people thought was one of the world's most infamous brutal rampaging warlords turned out to be the peaceful gentle teacher with the aura of a forest Chiron.
    this is why reading the source material is important yes
    considering the genghis guess was because people just looked at the pictures
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GundamFSN View Post
    Avicebron is a Kingdom Hearts character.
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    Telling us he is Xehanort is not helping much.

    Since there are hundreds of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    this is why reading the source material is important yes
    considering the genghis guess was because people just looked at the pictures
    I'm not even sure if the source material was out yet at that point.

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    I'm pretty sure it wasn't, and people were only going speculating based off of novel and character illustrations that came out.

    See, this was back when everyone thought Shirou Kotomine was literally just Fuyuki Shirou who had been raised by Kotomine.
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