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    My guess is Munenori since no eyepatch and Jubei never lived to the point of sporting gray hair.


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    Diarmuid vs Beowulf

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    Quote Originally Posted by GundamFSN View Post
    My guess is Munenori since no eyepatch and Jubei never lived to the point of sporting gray hair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
    Diarmuid vs Beowulf
    Diarmuid I think, gae dearg I think wouldn't really do that much against Beo's NPs but Beo also doesn't have any crazy defence to deal with Budlhe so that should still work. Also Beo should be easy for him to manipulate him since he just goes gun-hoe first than logic later, but than again while may be the case Beowulf could do something to surprise Diarmuid since most likely than not he would go for the crazy option that's totally out of Diar's expeditions. But that's just a possibility, most likely than not I would give it to the deer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GundamFSN View Post
    My guess is Munenori since no eyepatch and Jubei never lived to the point of sporting gray hair.
    The real Jubei didn't have an eye-patch either. That was just something added on by other people. But yeah I wouldn't think he would be that old.
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    Diarmuid can fool even high ranking Instinct and make his opponent do real mistake.

    Then I remember most of the time he ignore his capital I Instinct and use animal instinct instead and just bahsahkahing forward. So i suppose Knight Tactic cant be used fully here.

    But the thing about doing that is i think against a technique and speed oriented guy with a spear that can literally chip on your max health is a bad idea.

    Beo having a really lower AGI compared to Dia probably made it worse.
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    Beo also doesn't have any crazy defence to deal with Budlhe
    Battle Continuation B?
    Endurance A?

    Rather, I would say that Lancer's keep away tactics aren't going to be effective forever, and he doesn't have enough firepower do damage Beowulf enough to stop him from getting his hands on his neck... or better saying, using those sword-things of his to cut off lancer's head.
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    Why need firepower to stop him when you can just dodge him

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    Why would it not be effectice long enough for Buidhe to keep chipping his life
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    Hmmm. It seems to me that while Diarmuid has to keep hitting Beowulf and evading, Beowulf only has to hit him once.
    Not to mention that not only is Beowulf very durable, he also ignores wound penalties.

    All of that said, I do think Diarmuid has a reasonable chance of winning, I just think Beowulf has the odds in his favour.

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    I agree. It's not like Lancer can't possibly win, I just think that the match up gives Beowulf a clear advantage. He's still a berserker all things considered, he's meant to get hurt fighting, so Lancer just accumulating small amounts of damage over time plays to Beowulf's strength imo.




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    Quote Originally Posted by zikari8 View Post
    Alternate dimensions make all logical speculations and deducations invalid
    You say that but we guessed Shinjuku and Agartha Servants p fine.

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    The real Jubei didn't have an eye-patch either. That was just something added on by other people. But yeah I wouldn't think he would be that old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    You can't chip away battle continuation
    BC is the ability to stay fighting even when your life is chipped away, to stay fighting until your HP is 0. It doesnt boost your defense or your HP or anything like that.

    Dia doesnt need to chip away BC, he just need to chip away's Beo's life. Sure Beo is gonna keep standing until his HP is 0 but when it does hit 0 he would still drop dead.

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    i mean, good luck for a C rank AGI brawler type hitting a A+ rank AGI technique type. Im not saying its a clear cut victory but America Beo vs LSW makes it clear that Beo has bad compatibility against guy's who are quick on their feet, not a giant, and actually know martial arts.
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    I think Diarmuid vs Beowulf is a really good VS and I've been thinking about it for a few days.
    The underlying thing about this VS is that Beowulf does not do well against duelists. Diarmuid is 100% a duelist.
    At the same time though Beowulf doesn't have to be good against duelist because he has the aimbot known as Hrunting.
    And I think this aspect is a bit overlooked because in MURICA he just threw it away to fistcuffs with Li.
    However, Diarmuid is a dual wielder so I'm p sure Hrunting itself won't be sufficient.

    Secondly Diarmuid has Knight Tactics is a p direct counter for Instinct. However because Beowulf's ME, there are times he'll disregard Instinct completely.
    Berserk doesn't do anything against Knight Tactics since that's a tactic rather than a mental interference thing.

    It we put this all together Diarmuid definitely has an advantage against Beowulf in terms of compatibility as a Heroic Spirit, with skills, and with Gae Budhie.
    However it's not like Beowulf doesn't have a chance.
    If he is able build damage on Nageling and assplode it before Diarmuid can break through Focus Sash he can probably win or at least tie.

    Anyway it's a good VS because there's a lot to consider and a lot of moving parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    And I think this aspect is a bit overlooked because in MURICA he just threw it away to fistcuffs with Li.
    wonder why tho
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    Blitz does manages to fight (if for brief moments) people stronger than anything Kiritsugu seems to face directly in fate/zero, so it's hard to say. Flight is a big advantage, but then again, Kiritsugu's thing is not really fighting people head on unless there's no other choice.
    Can't say how that would turn out tbh.




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    wonder why tho
    Not much Li can do about fighting someone with aimbot sword and Instinct I'd guess and Nasu wanted some bajiquan memes

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    wonder why tho
    Because fisticuffs dude
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