Badass Versus Thread

[Qinglong]

learn the ancient art of dodge and you'll be fine

[LJ3]

You joke but that's actually true

[eddyak]

While that is true, an Excalibur to the face is still an Excalibur to the face. Even Gille's Demon Lord with it's incredible regen was still taken in one shot. While I think Enkidu's regen is superior and he would probably survive whether he would be in a fighting condition would be the question.

Gilles' demon was basically a giant amoeba. It didn't have any sort of armour, any way to dodge or offset damage, it just sat there like a fat arsed blob, even Iskander's regular old sword could cut through it.

I'm pretty sure Enkidu could take at least one Excaliblast if he was ready for it (whether by shielding himself, NPing back at her or maybe just tanking it outright), whether he could take the hit from the end of Fate... Well, she's basically just chopped apart a blob of Play-Doh, and even if that did mean he lost half his body, he still lost way more than that against Gil.

As long as she doesn't hit the Core, he's just gonna get right back up and then it's clobberin' time.

[8000]

Unless Enkidu is played as being a specific counter for Gilgamesh like Emiya, I don't think he would lose to any other Servant except ones he's specifically weak to.

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Emiya vs Diarmuid? I'm trying to figure out what magic Diarmuid can actually negate. I know he wasn't instantly negating Excalibur and passing right through it but IIRC didn't he shave off some of Invisible Air?

[Iceblade44]

Unless Enkidu is played as being a specific counter for Gilgamesh like Emiya, I don't think he would lose to any other Servant except ones he's specifically weak to.

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Emiya vs Diarmuid? I'm trying to figure out what magic Diarmuid can actually negate. I know he wasn't instantly negating Excalibur and passing right through it but IIRC didn't he shave off some of Invisible Air?

I think there was a Q&A where it was stated that Gae Dearg can only disipate Emiya's projections when he's creating them, after that they are complete and he would have to go the old fashion-way of breaking them manually, which admittedly isn't that hard.

[eddyak]

Unless Enkidu is played as being a specific counter for Gilgamesh like Emiya, I don't think he would lose to any other Servant except ones he's specifically weak to.

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Emiya vs Diarmuid? I'm trying to figure out what magic Diarmuid can actually negate. I know he wasn't instantly negating Excalibur and passing right through it but IIRC didn't he shave off some of Invisible Air?

Invisible Air is a spell, it's constantly circulating mana.

I think there was a Q&A where it was stated that Gae Dearg can also disipate Emiya's projections when he's creating them, after that they are complete and he would have to go the old fashion-way of breaking them manually, which admittedly isn't that hard.

I dunno about that being from a Q&A, but I do remember a debate here where that was basically the consensus.

[fumei]

It's from whatever mat entry explained what dearg could cut and it said that it couldn't cut established contracts or curses and shit like that
and so when something is fully projected it's already "established" and there's no energy circulation anymore

ergo

E:

ただし、過去に交わされた契約や呪い、すでに完了した魔術の効果を覆すことはできない。

[folgo]

kuzuki vs kairi

[eddyak]

kuzuki vs kairi

Shotgun.

[GundamFSN]

Li vs Inshun.

[Iceblade44]

Li vs Inshun.

Would Inshun be able to respond to Li's invisibility?

[8000]

Shotgun.

Is the shotgun suped up via magic? Otherwise Kuzuki would have no trouble avoiding it.

[Iceblade44]

Is the shotgun suped up via magic? Otherwise Kuzuki would have no trouble avoiding it.

it's a shotgun that fires homing finger bullets that will aim for your heart.

[GundamFSN]

Would Inshun be able to respond to Li's invisibility?

I guess that depends on his NP.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Is the shotgun suped up via magic? Otherwise Kuzuki would have no trouble avoiding it.

Kuzuki without Medea's magic is just a fit human.

[castor212]

what if he sneaky sneak on kairi

[You]

Would Inshun be able to respond to Li's invisibility?

which Li?
IIRC from mats Lancer Li doesn't have invisibility on his sphere boundary it's more of a sensing thing

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As long as she doesn't hit the Core, he's just gonna get right back up and then it's clobberin' time.

Does Enkidu even have spiritual core nodes
Also his Perfect Form skill makes him even harder to kill because he has super regen from the land.
You would p much have to take him all out in one go

[Iceblade44]

which Li?
IIRC from mats Lancer Li doesn't have invisibility on his sphere boundary it's more of a sensing thing

Lancer Li, I guess. Since the VS is between him and Ishun.

[eddyak]

what if he sneaky sneak on kairi

what if kairi sneaky sneak on him

Does Enkidu even have spiritual core nodes
Also his Perfect Form skill makes him even harder to kill because he has super regen from the land.
You would p much have to take him all out in one go

If he's summoned as a Servant, he'd have to have one. I assume.

[castor212]

presumably an assassin would sneak kill better than a gang biker tho

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im just taking into account where kuzuki was said to be real stronk if and maybe only if he had the initiative attack