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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyton View Post
    I wouldn't say Raikou's Anti-Mystery aspect is completely useless against Ushi, for the latter's early life has been shrouded in mystery (not to mention the supposed interaction with a Tengu). However, I think Ushi's Eye of Shiva could be the gamechanger in landing a decisive strike. Sure, it's a repositioning ability, but let's say Ushi is in the motion of swinging towards something with Raikou elsewhere, and she activates Eye of Shiva to reposition Raikou right in front of the strike with almost little time for the latter to react. Being the genius Ushi is, I think she can come up with that tactic regarding the usage of the Eye.

    Of course, Ushi's abilities were each given a short description, so how she activates Eye of Shiva is unclear (is it willfully done, or does she need to do some gestures, or even stand still in one spot and not be performing an action, etc.)
    In life Minamoto no Yoshitsune had notable episodes of using unorthodox ambushes and tatics relying on terrain and position of armies to achieve victory. Seeing that the Eye is basically the crystallization of those tatics and allows her control over those factors I'd say she can definitely come up with a good use of it to win against Raikou.
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    Nero vs Amakusa.

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    Please don't hurt Amakusa in this fashion, he didn't do anything to deserve this.
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    canon finish apo vol 3

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    assuming he can't just use a CS and say "kill yourself"....


    yeah don't hate amakusa like this

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    Why are you all so sure Nero would win? Amakusa is actually pretty powerful. He can cast literally any kind of Magecraft, see into the future and create black holes, after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Why are you all so sure Nero would win? Amakusa is actually pretty powerful. He can cast literally any kind of Magecraft, see into the future and create black holes, after all.
    He took sixty years to figure out how his own Noble Phantasms work, and can't do any of that large scale stuff like Heaven's Flail or Big Crunch unless he's got outside help from a magical energy perspective.

    Unless you plug him into a Grail or Chaldea electricity or something, he's pretty third-rate. The Skeleton Key's useful but it's not anything special from the perspective of a versus, and getting the EotMs is nice but it's not exactly going to be great when you're fighting someone with Imperial Privilege.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeadDemon View Post
    he's pretty third-rate.
    Is Nero especially better though? Honest question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    Is Nero especially better though? Honest question.
    she's better than third-rate for sure
    dat IP
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    IP saves her from the garbage bin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    Is Nero especially better though? Honest question.
    Haven't you played Septem? Nero is the greatest, the story tells me so at least once every other paragraph.

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    Amakusa has the potential to be really great, tho that's only in circumstances where he has a grail. Other than that as a Servant he'd have to rely on his Ruler privileges but that won't be taken account in a normal VS. Still tho Amakusa is pretty good with a sword thanks to the abilities his arms give him like it was in his spar with Achilles. Tho would that be enough to get past IP swordmanship?
    Last edited by Iceblade44; January 11th, 2018 at 08:30 PM.
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    Nero is backed by the power of love and that’s all she really needs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikewl View Post
    Nero is backed by the power of Imperial Privilege and Sakurai and that’s all she really needs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    Amakusa has the potential to be really great, tho that's only in circumstances where he has a grail. Other than that as a Servant he'd have to rely on his Ruler privileges but that won't be taken account in a normal VS. Still tho Amakusa is pretty good with a sword thanks to the abilities his arms give him like it was in his spar with Achilles. Tho would that be enough to get past IP swordmanship?
    Nero's trash at base.

    But add in Clairvoyance, Prana Burst, both EOTMs, Bravery, Innate Fitness, various plus correction skills, etc. and he's screwed.
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    Imperial Privilege was a mistake

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    Don't Nero's headaches keep her from giving herself too many Skills at once? Or does that just affect how long they last?

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    Nah, it actually heals her and grants debuff resistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qinglong View Post
    Angel Arm exists
    At the very least, Ea can take it. That said, Vash would find a way to win without killing Gilgamesh; it's what he does. He'd certainly be more than half-dead at the end of the battle, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    Nah, it actually heals her and grants debuff resistance.
    I don't mean GO, where every Skill has to have some kind of mechanical effect even if it makes no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Don't Nero's headaches keep her from giving herself too many Skills at once? Or does that just affect how long they last?
    I thought they just made her a permantly shitty artist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Don't Nero's headaches keep her from giving herself too many Skills at once? Or does that just affect how long they last?
    Last I remember that just applied to everything other than her sword skills, so probably like the arts and stuff like that, while the skills she gets are temporary they won't just disappear in the middle of battle.
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