Badass Versus Thread

[Iceblade44]

Atalanta Alter vs Pent.

In both actual battle and also appearance since there very similar

[eddyak]

Grumpy cat looks cooler, but Penthe's NP is leagues beyond in coolness.

[castor212]

make it an MMA battle

[pinetree]

Atalanta Alter vs Pent.

In both actual battle and also appearance since there very similar

Both designs are ruined through Ascension but Penth is just a bit worse while Atalanta was fucking ruined so Penth wins I guess.

[Magikewl]

Atalanta is a fucking furry so she loses by default

[Iceblade44]

I want to do Darius vs Ivan but I'm not sure exactly what Darius has over Ivan. From what I seen Ivan is like Darius 2.0. Though I think the biggest advantages for Darius is that he has better Physical stats overall and that his immortals can probably win against the oprichniki but that's it unless Ivan is weak to Darius's green fire I guess

[8000]

Was Ivan's profile translated? I assume the Ivan MC can summon is different from the Ivan they fought considering it shouldn't be possible to summon someone that powerful without nerfing them. Maybe Darius could beat nerfed Ivan, I'm not sure what gauge there is for him.

Full powered Ivan would be a mismatch. I assume when he's ranked on the level of a divine spirit that means Lion King and Quetz rather than Stheno and Darius can't do anything to someone that powerful. His mammoth was fighting Mekuth and if my understanding is right, it and all the servants there couldn't beat Ivan without Salieri's music causing psychological damage that made him mess up. Mekuth alone would've stomped Darius.

[Lily Emilio]

Castor translated the profile in the FGO lore thread.

[Iceblade44]

Only the skills tho.

[8000]

Just the skills wouldn't tell us much.

[Iceblade44]

Just read the other parts of his profile. Nothing really seems to have changed. He still has his Mammoth, still has his army when he sleeps. If you want to derive any other conclusions then you can take allow at his profile for yourself https://redd.it/8bjxa9

[8000]

His profile doesn't say anything about it, but I have to imagine he's nerfed because something on the level of a divine spirit would get nerfed by class containers. Most likely he has the same abilities but on a lower level. His NP is probably still superior.

...also the mammoth is anti-unit. How does that happen?

[Arashi_Leonhart]

I'm pretty sure his profile doesn't say anything because a lot of things are nerfed by class containers. I dunno why you're differentiating divine spirits since heroic spirits also are fractional in containers.

[Altaris]

People saw Shinrei and lose their shit, what else is new

[castor212]

i mean its already obvious he is nerfed from the fact that we summon him as a blue burly guy, not blue burly guy forever fused with bigass mammoth.

his np is anti unit because probably it first affect himself, turning himself back into mystical beast of the old days. probably same with his oprichniki np; its anti unit probably cuz it targets himself as he falls asleep

[SpoonyViking]

Huh. I'm far from an expert in Russian History or folklore, but why is a Russian czar associated with mammoths?

[Mcjon01]

How familiar are you with Russian alternate history

[SpoonyViking]

Oh, I see.

[8000]

I dunno why you're differentiating divine spirits since heroic spirits also are fractional in containers.

Mainly because Ivan was already a servant in the lostbelt while he was alive, or at least was referred to as one.

Anyway even nerfed, Ivan should win. His mammoth is a lot bigger and while it might not be stronger it would still have a big reach advantage, also it has the benefits of a laser while Darius doesn't. It also looks like Ivan can teleport based on his animations.

[Iceblade44]

Hector vs Rama.

Fighting on the Ryoudo temple stairs. Hector had high ground