Badass Versus Thread

[castor212]

i think its kinda bad for hector. he cant really pull a hit and run tactic in that condition to the fullest

[You]

yes but hector has the high ground

[eddyak]

I've said it before, I'll say it again, Hector's the dude who went head to head with Achilles multiple times. He's probably harder to kill than Cu is.

[8000]

Rama has a higher ranked NP, but I'm not sure if either would fire an NP in a space like that and the plus modifier on Brahamastra might just be the anti-demon boost.

NP clash notwithstanding the high ground should give Hector a decent edge, especially since he has a spear to widen the reach gap, but I would think Brahamastra can do a close range true name release which would bridge the gap. Hector can too, but only with Duridana Spatha which sacrifices the reach advantage and is lower ranked than Brahamastra. Plus Rama has other weapons and (slightly) better stats.

Rama should win, although I'm still not certain what the deal with NPs on the stairs is.

[castor212]

yes but hector has the high ground

its over then

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I've said it before, I'll say it again, Hector's the dude who went head to head with Achilles multiple times. He's probably harder to kill than Cu is.

but he faced him head to head properly like, once.

[eddyak]

but he faced him head to head properly like, once.

True, but to face the guy so fast his own teacher had to use precognition to fight him, that's an achievement and a half. I could see Hector losing, but it'd be long and drawn out, even for Rama.

[castor212]

Comet Form is an NP for Servant Achilles tho

Hector tiptoeing Achilles is when alive.

Im not downplaying Hector's deed, just saying that most of the time its Hector being smart about the overall condition with running away or sidestepping or doesnt confront to begin with, not him having OP survival skills in direct battle

[8000]

Hector fought Achilles in the thunderdome which reduces his stats.

[castor212]

uh, and..?

[8000]

It's less impressive considering that.

[castor212]

oh, that

[Iceblade44]

Hector's biggest strength is that he can pretty much take control of a situation and make full use of it. Because he's an all-rounder he has no weakness to exploit and through his taunts he can manipulate his opponents so it be more favorable for him. Any advantage he can get he will use to completely outmanuever whoever he's facing. That's his strength

[castor212]

Hector's biggest strength is that he can pretty much take control of a situation and make full use of it. Because he's an all-rounder he has no weakness to exploit and through his taunts he can manipulate his opponents so it be more favorable for him. Any advantage he can get he will use to completely outmanuever whoever he's facing. That's his strength

Yeah but honestly i think this situation is more disadvantageous to Hector than to Rama. Theres just not enough room to manuveur to begin.

At the very least, i dont think Hector would stay in the narrow temple path if he wants to win.

[castor212]

I want to do Darius vs Ivan but I'm not sure exactly what Darius has over Ivan.

Does money count

Anyway revisiting cuz i feel its interesting

Oprichniki came out as Ivan's asleep so tactical wise Darius is probably better. The oprichniki is noted to be as strong as low ranked Servant, but also noted to be weak individually so i dunno
Feels like the immortals kinda stronger to me.

But then that begs the question if emergency authority is active even if Ivan's asleep.

Then again thats a very big mammoth as oppozed to normal sized elephant.

[8000]

Incidentally, doesn't Darius beat Iskandar in his interlude?

[Iceblade44]

Does money count

Anyway revisiting cuz i feel its interesting

Oprichniki came out as Ivan's asleep so tactical wise Darius is probably better. The oprichniki is noted to be as strong as low ranked Servant, but also noted to be weak individually so i dunno
Feels like the immortals kinda stronger to me.

But then that begs the question if emergency authority is active even if Ivan's asleep.

Then again thats a very big mammoth as oppozed to normal sized elephant.

oprichniki are only low rank Servanr level near Moscow, other than that there weak. But I don't think Darius's immortals are that strong either. There biggest advantage is quantity after all, though they are probably stronger then Dragon tooth warriors at least.

As for Darius's mammoth, I actually don't have a good idea on it's size. I think it's smaller then Ivan's but it's still gigantic Darius looks small next to it. Hopefully Extella will give a better image of it's size.

[castor212]

Full transparency im just lowkey wishing the immortal part of their name actually means something

[8000]

Oprinicki were at least strong enough that Holmes couldn't solo the squad that attacked Chaldea, which wasn't anywhere near their full numbers. Holmes was confirmed to be combat capable although I doubt he's anywhere near high end.

[Rafflesiac]

Incidentally, doesn't Darius beat Iskandar in his interlude?

He beats Alexander, who's several orders of magnitude weaker.

[castor212]

Oprichniki doesnt have full numbers. Their full numbers is infinite.

The squad that attack Chaldea is noted to be almost as much as the squat that guards the capital. Kinda hard to solo all of that.