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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    "Oh wow she's clearly charging her obvious Noble Phantasm to throw at me judging by her outdated shitty 2 years old animation. I should just not fly out of the way or use the warp function to escape her range because throwing spear is clearly many times faster than heavenly boat that i can control with my thoughts"
    GBA freezes the target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    GBA freezes the target.
    First, a close-ranged attack from the first demonic spear would rob the enemy's movement by "pinning them in a spot in the air", and the second demonic spear would strike through everything if thrown with her full might
    Think you might need to get your definition checked mate
    Last edited by Altaris; May 14th, 2018 at 10:12 PM.

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    That's describing the effects of both versions of Cu's Gae Bolg which GBA uses at once. I assume it would still freeze the opponent if it were thrown otherwise it wouldn't be any different from Cu's.

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    That's describing the effects of both versions of Cu's Gae Bolg which GBA uses at once. I assume it would still freeze the opponent if it were thrown otherwise it wouldn't be any different from Cu's.

    So you imagining Scathach has a way of magically stunning anythingfrom several miles away from her without touching them with her magical spear because you want it to be different when the text clearly say that her GBA is literally just Cu's two techniques jam into one ? Okay

    Just go back and watch her NP animation, even Koyama doesn't wank her that hard

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    That's describing the effects of both versions of Cu's Gae Bolg which GBA uses at once. I assume it would still freeze the opponent if it were thrown otherwise it wouldn't be any different from Cu's.
    That's actually implied to be sort of the point, that it's roughly the same thing that Cu does but not exactly what Cu does because what Cu does is pattented by Cu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    So you imagining Scathach has a way of magically stunning anythingfrom several miles away from her without touching them with her magical spear because you want it to be different when the text clearly say that her GBA is literally just Cu's two techniques jam into one ? Okay

    Just go back and watch her NP animation, even Koyama doesn't wank her that hard
    Replace miles with a smaller unit of distance and that would literally be Cu's techniques jammed into one so I'm not sure what the issue is.

    The NP animation has her throwing it and also has the opponent getting stunned so wouldn't that support the notion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    That's actually implied to be sort of the point, that it's roughly the same thing that Cu does but not exactly what Cu does because what Cu does is pattented by Cu.
    Are you agreeing or disagreeing? Sorry I can't really tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    Replace miles with a smaller unit of distance and that would literally be Cu's techniques jammed into one so I'm not sure what the issue is.

    The NP animation has her throwing it and also has the opponent getting stunned so wouldn't that support the notion?
    She stun you Before she throw the spear. Like the animation show she literally get up close to hit you first so she can make you freeze before she charge up her spear, because if she doesn't people will just dodge it as she doesn't have the Reverse Causality effect like Cu, otherwise Cu would have committed Sudoku from being one up by his sensei.

    Even if she can stun something from throwing a spear, Ishtar can also dodge that first spear and voila, if you dodge the first she cant hit you with the 2nd because she can't stun you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    Replace miles with a smaller unit of distance and that would literally be Cu's techniques jammed into one so I'm not sure what the issue is.

    The NP animation has her throwing it and also has the opponent getting stunned so wouldn't that support the notion?
    The point is that the first spear must HIT the target in the first place to pin the target in place, while you just said "GBA freezes the target" like it does that automatically, which is false. Either that you chose your words poorly, or you wanked it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    She stun you Before she throw the spear. Like the animation show she literally get up close to hit you first so she can make you freeze before she charge up her spear, because if she doesn't people will just dodge it as she doesn't have the Reverse Causality effect like Cu, otherwise Cu would have committed Sudoku from being one up by his sensei.

    Even if she can stun something from throwing a spear, Ishtar can also dodge that first spear and voila, if you dodge the first she cant hit you with the 2nd because she can't stun you.
    I see your point, although are we sure that's not just the out of date animation? Otherwise it's not really a combination of the techniques as opposed to each technique being used in succession...which I suppose is pretty much a combination so point conceded actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    The point is that the first spear must HIT the target in the first place to pin the target in place, while you just said "GBA freezes the target" like it does that automatically, which is false. Either that you chose your words poorly, or you wanked it.
    Yeah I got that now. I had the way it worked mixed up. I'd rather not be accused of wanking.

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    Poor Arjuna, he can't fly so he got downplayed by Cu Alter when Scathach challenged him kek

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    Are you agreeing or disagreeing? Sorry I can't really tell.
    if it were thrown otherwise it wouldn't be any different from Cu's.
    This. It isn't supposed to be different from Cu's in overall result. Thus Cu's complaint about becoming redundant.

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    It basically to compensate for the fact that Scathach's GB doesn't have automatic heart-seeker attribute

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    Well if anything what Cu can do is cheaper so he has that as a plus.

    it's a small plus tho.
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    Why doesn’t scathach just fly by throwing her GBA into the sky, riding it, and then throwing another one to change directions because she has a lot

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    I believe Ishtar would use his Noble Phantasm in a few minutes of fighting. She destroyed a mountain because it bothered her. kkkkkkkk

    His exorbitant amount of Mana (EX) allows her to use her NP several times and there is still Gugalanna. Scathach could use the Gate NP, but it is not functional. Ishtar can get out of range using the interstellar voyage to Venus.

    There are different ways for Ishtar to dodge the attacks of Scathach, but what can the Lancer do against Gugalanna's kick and the concept of Venus?

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    Why doesn’t Scathach take lessons from Jeanne and spearcopter her way to Ishtar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordep View Post
    There are different ways for Ishtar to dodge the attacks of Scathach, but what can the Lancer do against Gugalanna's kick and the concept of Venus?
    wait for her to prep the final blow and then get her when the goof-up trait has the most likely chance of procing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    wait for her to prep the final blow and then get her when the goof-up trait has the most likely chance of procing
    We need to have more faith in her.

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