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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordep View Post
    We need to have more faith in her.
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    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Its hard to when Babylon was her suffering from a goof-up and summer heat builds up to a goof-up.

    ^Yeah this

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    Realistically speaking, is there any battle that she can win?


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    Quote Originally Posted by GundamFSN View Post
    Realistically speaking, is there any battle that she can win?
    against parvarti
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    Please no bully
    But Ishtar only wins against people who are more fun to bully than her.
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    If the only thing you needed to beat someone on Scathach's level was "lol I fly away from your spears gg" then I doubt she would've acquired this much fame (and aforementioned title of Godslayer) in the first place.

    Trouble is for all the hype they've built up around her she's gotten next to no story feats beyond dispensing advice and jobbing to Cu Alter. Hopefully she'll actually have some screentime in Link yeah right

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    If the only thing you needed to beat someone on Scathach's level was "lol I fly away from your spears gg" then I doubt she would've acquired this much fame (and aforementioned title of Godslayer) in the first place.
    Not everyone can fly and warp like Ishtar does and not everyone has the same level of firepower that Ishtar has The amount of Servants who can actually fly is incredibly low. Most of them are high tier Riders and many of them do not possess the same level of long-range artillery that Ishtar does.
    aforementioned title of Godslayer
    She killed a bunch of no name Divine Spirits in her realm. Big deal. Fionn killed a literal god and is being treated like a buttjoke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    Not everyone can fly and warp like Ishtar does and not everyone has the same level of firepower that Ishtar has The amount of Servants who can actually fly is incredibly low. Most of them are high tier Riders and many of them do not possess the same level of long-range artillery that Ishtar does. She killed a bunch of no name Divine Spirits in her realm. Big deal. Fionn killed a literal god and is being treated like a buttjoke
    In-universe she's treated like a Big Deal though, that's what I'm getting at. Hell, her entire character when summoned in Chaldea is basically "Man I wish someone was strong enough to kill me".

    edit:Also wouldn't a "no-name" Divine Spirit be literally impossible? These guys need worship to exist, don't they?
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    Hype does not translate into actual feats. There are many hyped characters and only a handful of them actually shows some feats worthy of the hype, the rest be like nah we'r just here acting like a lurking villain in the background. Wait until she actually beat some named divine spirit outside of her realm and Western Europe then you can use it as something. And like I already told you several pages ago, her godslayer hype you were talking about is already turned into a skill with effect being adding a plus correction to her attacks against divine. It doesn't do anything if she can't hit the target.

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    Not really. A lot of Gods existed before humanity since many were aliens. Also there's a difference between bonafide Gods and Divine Spirits. Divine Spirits are to Gods as Heroic Spirits are to living humans.
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    That's literally what I'm saying tho
    wait (and/or hope) until she gets some actual feats

    Edit: I knew the one time I was too lazy to quote would bite me in the ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Also wouldn't a "no-name" Divine Spirit be literally impossible? These guys need worship to exist, don't they?
    There are countless nameless pagan gods. Back in the AoG gods are litereally everywhere, they are the world. Anything, any concept has a god. Even toilets and sewers have gods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    There are countless nameless pagan gods. Back in the AoG gods are litereally everywhere, they are the world. Anything, any concept has a god. Even toilets and sewers have gods.
    Maybe the God that she beat was the God of Jobbing.

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    The scene itself was badly-written, but it's not as if Scáthach losing to Cú Chulainn Alter is an indicator of her being weak. Cú Chulainn is already a top-tier Heroic Spirit, his Alter version was greatly empowered by the Grail, and even then he only won because he took her by surprise by using an ability he never had while alive. I'm not saying she's necessarily going to defeat Ishtar, but we shouldn't discount her as just hype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    The scene itself was badly-written, but it's not as if Scáthach losing to Cú Chulainn Alter is an indicator of her being weak. Cú Chulainn is already a top-tier Heroic Spirit, his Alter version was greatly empowered by the Grail, and even then he only won because he took her by surprise by using an ability he never had while alive. I'm not saying she's necessarily going to defeat Ishtar, but we shouldn't discount her as just hype.
    No one denying that Scathach has hype and she is powerful. We're not even talking about her jobbing to Cu. What I were saying is that in a versus thread we should only take actual feats and stats into account. Just because you have insane hype doesn't mean all of your abilities are shown in the stories. Like I already said both Ishtar and Scathach have a huge vague zone in their abilities (Authorities for Ishtar and runes/abyss skills of Scathach). Hype doesn't mean anything when we yet to see actual feats. It's like saying Amaterasu will fodderlize all ancient gods because her powerlevel is higher than full-power Titan Sefar - the one who whooped their asses - despite not knowing anything about her combat abilities. Like, no.

    The point here is that hype does not translate into feats and any non-joke argument saying "but this character has insane hype he/she should be able to beat this other character" to me is ridiculous.
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    Eh, I think all characters suffer from "vagueness" at least to some extent. For instance, we know that "regular" Cú Chulainn can use runes to create a barrier capable of blocking "a strong Noble Phantasm" - but what the heck is a "strong Noble Phantasm"? I imagine it wouldn't stop an Excaliblast or an Enuma Elish, but would it stop a Broken Phantasm Caladbolg II? We don't know, but shouldn't we try to infer?

    Speaking of inferring and BPCII: Caster!Cú Chulainn can send it to another dimension while within his territory by using a copy of Scáthach's Gate of Skye (though it seems to be of the same level of quality as the original). Couldn't Scáthach attempt to do the same against Ishtar's Venus-missile?

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    Might be possible, as Quetz kinda wanted to play baseball with it. But Quetz is super OP in her own ways already.
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