See, now THAT's a valid argument, one which is entirely unrelated to him "surviving" Gáe Bolg.Originally Posted by Altaris
(Also, Saber needed both LCK AND Instinct to not-fully-"dodge" the curse.)
Also, presumably Cú could at least try to evade Brahmastra with high AGI and Protection from Arrows.
actually now that i think about it technically this is surviving gae bolg as well
I know, I played through America. :-) And I think you're underestimating how much he needed Nightingale's help to be able to move around and fight Beowulf (and with your team of Servants helping, at that).
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Sure, but it's not as if Rama knows about Cú's Noble Phantasm, nor is it that easy to keep out of Cú's melee range considering his speed and agility.
i mean, i really am just saying
if you ask if he can survive GB or not, yes
if you ask if he can survive and then able to counter attack/runaway/whatevs, then the answer would be different
you asked the former and not the latter, so the answer's yes
Context matters, Castor.
Rama actually has A+ agility, higher than Cu. Thanks to his skill Martial Blessing A, its clear that Rama is at least superior in melee combat
exactly
if you asked more specific, like the latter then the context wouldve been clear
the way you asked it originally it really sounds to my ear like that youre just asking if he can stay alive after he got gae bolged
Last edited by castor212; June 16th, 2018 at 09:27 AM.
I don't know, Martial Blessing has Rama as superior in that he's proficient in many weapons at a very good degree. Cu though is very good with a spear, I mean Rama did say he was one of the world's greatest spearman when they fought at the finale. So I don't think there's gonna be that much of a difference in martial skill between them.
Also as for agi, you are right on that tho I wonder if that would change if Cu's flash step from Link is truly something he can do
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
A+ agility only activates the modifier in certain instances no? we dont know Rama's conditions for it and he didnt give Cu Alter any problems in terms of speed when they were fighting, even 3 on 1. Siegfried also has a lower agility rank than Karna and they were rather even.
also, a non-exploding slicing disk and arrows from some non-NP level bows doesnt seem like the kind of thing that would give Cu problems because of his Protection from Arrows
The condition for a plus is "When I feel like it for a little while".
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And what do you mean non-NP bows everything in Vishnu Bhuja is an OP as fuck Indian NP, that's the entire point of the NP.
If Rama doesn't have knowledge of Gae Bolg I'm not sure he'd open by fighting at range and Cu should be able to avoid most of his stuff. Rama does have B rank luck but Saber had instincts on top of that which helps and Rama doesn't.
Grail buff.
Rama is Saber, Archer AND Lancer in 1. And Brahmastra has multiple forms. It can be a bow, a beam, a blade...etc, anything you want. And what are these non-NP bows are you talking about?also, a non-exploding slicing disk and arrows from some non-NP level bows doesnt seem like the kind of thing that would give Cu problems because of his Protection from Arrows
Isn’t cu explicitly capable of dodging ranged NPs? I feel like I remember that between his PfA specifically being effective against ranged NPs and his runic barriers being good enough to stop a NP if he has a chance to get them going that they were nigh useless against him.
hell it took gil 12 hours to kill him.
actually can someone remind me where does rune barrier can defend against NP thing comes from
i remember reading it but i dont remember where
Heaven's Feel.
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
right before Hassan steals his heart
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Grail buff makes you sonic the edgehog? i think it only lets you not have to worry about mana reserves.
his arsenal says that the bows and spears inside are close to NP level, but dont seem to be there yet.
his Brahmastra is specifically a slicing disc
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isnt the regular Gae Bolg throw also almost impossible to dodge and has some really long range?
I mean it's kinda grail buff but kinda not. Cu Alter also has A+ Agility.
Also remind that the hundred from Agi only comes for a moment. I always interpreted +s in stats to be temporary boosts that only a last a turn as you exerted more effort. On normal Rama is as fast as Cu.
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
Grail buff makes Cu capable of doing anything for Medb. He could even broke inside a RM from the outside. Definitely not just mana reserves.
Fake news. This has never been mentioned.his arsenal says that the bows and spears inside are close to NP level, but dont seem to be there yet.
No it's not. In the first place Brahmastra is the "Indestructible blade". Karna uses it in the form of his eye beam (it turns into a bow if Karna is archer class and other weapon in other classes too) while for Rama it was originally an arrow then he changed it into a blade, and then when he throws it with such force it looks that way. One NP, multiple forms and applications.his Brahmastra is specifically a slicing disc
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I was referring to the 1v3
But can he actually change it to other forms even after he is summoned?
The examples that you said seems to be cases that happened in the actual summoning process as they get fitted in class containers. And Rama, while he can operate as Archer and Lancer he's not actually part is those classes. His class container remains the same as Saber, so can he even morph Brahmastra into other shapes naturally? If he could change it into any weapon he desired I would think that would have gotten more focus.
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
He wants to be Saber so why would he change it into other things that are not blades? He didn't even remember he got a GoB-like NP. We don't know if he can change into other forms but he did force it to change into a blade and insisted the Saber class. But that's not the point. The point I'm saying is that Brahmastra is a multi form NP, which is actually how astras function in legend anyway, so saying that it is strictly a disc for Rama is false to begin with cuz it was an arrow turning into a blade.
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