Wonder now who can melee Karna and not die because of lack of protection beyond Sieg and Herk
Wonder now who can melee Karna and not die because of lack of protection beyond Sieg and Herk
Enkidu probably could.Originally Posted by LJ3
Sigurd vs sun-buffed Gawain. Demonic sword of the sun Vs holy sword of the sun.
Can Sigurd pull a Lancelot and hold off Gawain till the sun sets?
Enkidu with regen and stat buffs, Lancelot thanks to Arondight's properties, Beowulf (Grendel Buster). Unironically Gilgamesh has a chance.
Can't think of any besides these and I'm not even sure on some.
EDIT: Cu Alter?
Last edited by Ronove; July 19th, 2018 at 02:10 AM.
Arjuna and Rama should be pretty obvious.
Lancelot?
In America they noted that Arjuna specifically couldn't get into melee range with Karna otherwise he'd be screwed
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Quetzalcoatl is a pretty good shout
I dont think anyone without invulnarable (like Siegfried or Heracles or Babylon Quetz) can fight against him toe to toe in pure melee. His spearmanship is still godlike and really fast. It said in LN, to break Karna's spearmanship, one need to get a direct hit from Karna to land a single blow (Gawain need to sacrifice his left hand to hit nerfed Karna in Foxtail). Unless they did this, at best they can only play a defensive fight with him
Nero, Tamamo, Nameless.
Actually, add the entire Extella cast to that. :-P
If he is just marginally.better than siegfried, a lot probably could
Hector probably could
Siegfried only seemed to take damage at first because there was no point to try hard on deflecting the spear because he knew he wouldnt die. They even comment that his actions are borderline reckless if you didnt count his armour
He didn't even used prana burst against siegfried mate. At least compared it to the Sieg fight
Karna's melee skill and parameters are the same in Foxtail, if not higher. He only loses his armor
How do you figure?
While Gram is the origin of Balmung they are vastly different, namely Balmungs gem. If it was just the sword itself it would be inferior but since it is different it should make up.
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He probably can considering.
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
Looking at Sigurd’s skills he doesn’t have one like that. He has
primodial runes(knight) B
dragon reformation Ex which basically says he has a dragon core(something Siegfried lost) and so he can act independently as a Servant from what I gather from a shit load of magical energy (don’t think he can spam like Siegfried could,since he doesn’t have Balmung’s gem.)
and Crystallization of Wisdom which is his glasses thus make him smart all the time.
what I wanted point out that while Gram is anti dragon like Balmung(tho while the profile doesn’t mention it gameplay it does) he doesn’t have Siegfrieds Dragon Slayer skill. Which is important that it doesn’t just boost attack power against Dragon kin but also defense against them which Sigurd is. That I think should boost Siegfrieds survivability a bit.
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
I don't think Sigurd needs Dragon Slayer. Caules was certain Siegfried would be at a disadvantage against any dragon slaying hero and none of those except Siegfried himself have Dragon Slayer. I think there's an implied conceptual advantage even if it's not sublimated into a skill.
Also, E rank STR is still enough to cut Siegfried's non-armor flesh. He and Sigurd should be even thematically, but it just seems like Sigurd has a clear edge because Siegfried's main ability is irrelevant against him while all of Sigurd's work fine.
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Sigurd isn't beating Karna either way, but I think in his fight with Karna, Siegfried may have let himself take hits not thinking they would hurt him. The narration says Karna was only slightly more skilled, and if it's only a slight margin I doubt he'd be able to land 78 hits immediately without taking any in return. It makes sense that Siegfried would let himself take damage given he knows he can.
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We don't know how skilled Sigurd is. Lancelot is more skilled than 90% of all Servants so I doubt Sigurd could manage it.
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I don't think Enkidu's taking Karna in melee. Kingu was dying from a stab wound in Babylon, his regen really doesn't seem that good.
Doesn't Georgios have Dragon Slayer? Besides Abyssus/Interfectionem Draconis.
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
No.
No, his Dragon Slaying abilties is Interfectionem Draconis. It is his Dragon Slaying made into an NP.
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
Grendel Buster is Feint, not Brick Break.
Kingu had his heart ripped clean out of him, hard to regen while down a spiritual core.
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