Napoleon has the bigger gunOriginally Posted by Rafflesiac
Napoleon has the bigger gun
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
Napoleon's more powerful and should be able to give himself better stats via Imperial Privilege. Moriarty doesn't trigger anti-mystery buffs, but his NP seems to include a close range attack so it probably loses in a long range clash. Only problem is heat seeking bullets, but Napoleon has A rank AGI so he can probably handle regular shots.
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Bryn broke out of ice via Runes so Sigurd might be able to do something similar, but Viy is a problem. It's EX rank so Sigurd would have to slice through it rather than overpower it. Although I'm not clear what exactly Viy can do.
also Anastasia has a fortress
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Although I'm not clear what exactly Viy can do.[/QUOTE]
the words "broken piece of shit" come to mind
Gram is Anti-Fortress and can probably destroy the Kremlin, although if Sigurd has to use Gram before dealing with Viy he might be in trouble.
Hi there. First time posting on this thread, so I have no idea if this matchup has already been done. Who do you think would win in a battle between full Heroic Spirits (not confined by Servant classes), Heracles or Achilles?
Herk is #1 Greek HS
Achilles is #2 Greek HS
At least Achilles has fun.
True, and the question is now how bad a curbstomp it would be for Achilles.
Everything points to Herc. Probably wouldn't be a stomp, but everyone clearly thinks Herc is superior so the gap is notable at least.
It would be a fun battle nonetheless, with plenty of respectful banter between both combatants. Also, about another Heracles matchup, how do you think Cu Chullain summoned as a full Heroic Spirit with all his Noble Phantasms and the full location bonuses of Ireland at his disposal would fare against him? I ask because he's frequently described as the Irish Heracles, so...
God's Hand is still OP among servant and Achilles doesnt have anything to kill all Herk's 12 live. On the other hand, Achilles is the fastest and has a world-class shield, so mostly both fight would end in stalemate...
IMO, Heracles still has the edge. Not only in overall parameter but also he can take every attack from Achilles without any damage after he use all his big guns while Achilles need to focus and block or dodge every Herk's attack
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Don't forget Achilles' Reality Marble that strips away all advantages and forces both combatants to go at it barehanded. In which case it'd be close, but Heracles might still win.
We don't actually know what everyone's like as Full Heroic Spirits, so these VS seem kind of, silly?
The Achilles one fair enough, but Cu is a bit tricky
Sure we know he gets iirc a fortress and a chariot, but what those do, and what their stats would be without a class container is mhmmmm????
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True, but a man can still speculate and dream of the day Nasu shows us a true Heroic Spirit. At least, could we ask who might win between a Cu with his Lancer and Caster skills combined and Archer!Herc? We have kind of a basis for the latter with Alcides/Alkeides, even if he is a rather weird case.
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I'd like to think their greatness shines even through their containers, Grand or no
Sadly, we never know how strong true Heroic Spirit is...
While we know Cu Chulainn has extra np and boost in his land, no one except nasu know how its work
Wholly depends on the Servant. Some AoG ones are definitely weakened, but other newer Servants definitely are better than they were alive.
There’s no barehanded rule, that was just for fun
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I imagine a pure heroic spirit wouldn’t look like much since spirits don’t have bodies
I thought it did strip away any advantages aside from sheer combat prowess, including Divinity and the likes. I don't remember much about Apocrypha, even though I binged it 2 months ago. Besides, Heracles would likely agree to a barehanded bout anyway.
Also, let's not be cheeky about the whole Pure Heroic Spirit please. You know I meant that it'd be cool to see a Classless Heroic Spirit summoned into the World with their full power.
Enkidu vs Vlad in Romania
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