Badass Versus Thread

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So like a Protection of Arrows (False) Rank C?

Something like that.

[Urameshi Yūsuke]

Bronze Saints (Silver Saints Arc) vs Berserker (w/Illya)

[Iceblade44]

Something like that.

Except all the skills she gives herself is from B to A rank. It's not merely quantity of skills but also quality

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Scath can probably give herself some form of Protection from Arrows, but I don't think it would be as good as Cu's at least.

It would, as I said. Skills between A and B. Even if it's not A it will still be high enough

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

Except all the skills she gives herself is from B to A rank. It's not merely quantity of skills but also quality

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It would, as I said. Skills between A and B. Even if it's not A it will still be high enough

I see. Scathach seems to be quite the badass. I have heard that she's not that impressive statistically or in Extella. Why's that?

[Magikewl]

It’s because she’s only good for bringing in horny otaku bucks and nothing else

[LeadDemon]

For the "unique skills" thing, Chiron's Wisdom skill has the same caveat of not being able to copy them, but then Apo Mats mentions that examples of "unique skills" are Imperial Privilege and Pioneer of the Stars, both of which multiple Servants have.

So the definition of "unique skills", assuming Sca and Chiron have the same definition, doesn't seem to actually mean "unique to a specific Heroic Spirit" like, say, Numeral of the Saint or something.

[Lily Emilio]

Unique skills are like Die for Me! in SMT, non-unique skills are like Agilao and thos alike in SMT.

[RoydGolden]

For the "unique skills" thing, Chiron's Wisdom skill has the same caveat of not being able to copy them, but then Apo Mats mentions that examples of "unique skills" are Imperial Privilege and Pioneer of the Stars, both of which multiple Servants have.

So the definition of "unique skills", assuming Sca and Chiron have the same definition, doesn't seem to actually mean "unique to a specific Heroic Spirit" like, say, Numeral of the Saint or something.

My guess would be that "unique Skills" are any that are only given to a Servant because of their particular role in history, rather than a specific talent or ability they had that could theoretically be learnt and/or copied. Pioneer Of The Stars is "I changed history" and Imperial Privilege is "I'm a ruler so awesome whatever I say goes". If you don't meet those criteria then you can't recreate the Skill, no matter what your natural abilities are.

[Rafflesiac]

I see. Scathach seems to be quite the badass. I have heard that she's not that impressive statistically or in Extella. Why's that?

You know how Gil's a king, not a fighter?

well scathach's a pole dancer, not a lancer

[Bugs]

ayylmao

[Arashi_Leonhart]

You know how Gil's a king, not a fighter?

well scathach's a pole dancer, not a lancer

excuse me, its Void Shiki that's the pole dancer

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

You know how Gil's a king, not a fighter?

well scathach's a pole dancer, not a lancer

Shots fired.

[Urameshi Yūsuke]

You know how Gil's a king, not a fighter?

well scathach's a pole dancer, not a lancer

Gonna need a grail for that one.

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

excuse me, its Void Shiki that's the pole dancer

No, no. She's already got a sword. Why need a pole as well?

[Rafflesiac]

However, these skills are based on the techniques of Greece’s mythic era, and as such Chiron cannot acquire skills developed in another time and place.

Huh, Chiron can't teach people capoeira RIP

[Deathhappens]

To hang her laundry on, duh.

[Iceblade44]

I don't think unique literally means only one person has it. It can still be unique if it's restricted to a small enough group.

Then again, as of GO most skills are personalized, so I don't know actually...

A lot of skills are personalized yes, but it tends to be more general then you think. Unless a skill is explicity noted to be highly personalized to a HS, and it's description is still one that is general then it's not unique. PoA isn't unique since both Tota and Cu has it and their highly different. Not to mention Emiya Alter also has it as well but it's more specialized. That doesn't feel unique to me.

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It depends on how you interpret divine blessing I suppose, if it's something Cu could acquire because of divine heritage or if there's actually a god actively imposing the blessing upon him. The former is more likely upon reflection.

I don't think PfA can be taught though, at least not at the level Cu has. I think there's definitely an element of projectiles straight up being forced to miss, the way the VN described it Cu shouldn't have been able to block them all just swinging around his spear, and that some of them did get through the gaps in his swings. That implies it makes at least a few projectiles miss.

No he blocked everyone. That is what the VN said. Even if it wasn't possible he blocked them all with his spear. There is no special barrier. Later in the VN it explained how PfoA worked. Air pressure and killing intent. If it was a Divine Protection where they just missed on principle it wouldn't say that Cu must have visual for the Skill to work

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For the "unique skills" thing, Chiron's Wisdom skill has the same caveat of not being able to copy them, but then Apo Mats mentions that examples of "unique skills" are Imperial Privilege and Pioneer of the Stars, both of which multiple Servants have.

So the definition of "unique skills", assuming Sca and Chiron have the same definition, doesn't seem to actually mean "unique to a specific Heroic Spirit" like, say, Numeral of the Saint or something.

No I think Numeral of the Saint is still a unique skill
No one but Gawain can have it, that's it. Imperial Privilege is unique because only Emperors can have it, Pionner because only World-Changers can have it. That's how it works. The Wisdom skill says all skills can be gained except those that are paticualar to certain heroes. To be paticualar has it that anyone else having the skill wouldn't make sense or something like that.

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

No I think Numeral of the Saint is still a unique skill
No one but Gawain can have it, that's it. Imperial Privilege is unique because only Emperors can have it, Pionner because only World-Changers can have it. That's how it works. The Wisdom skill says all skills can be gained except those that are paticualar to certain heroes. To be paticualar has it that anyone else having the skill wouldn't make sense or something like that.

Wait. Numeral of the Saint ISN'T linked directly to wielding Excalibur Galatine? I thought it was, and thus any wielder of the sword had it?

[Bugs]

It's linked directly to Gawain. It goes back to the actual Arthurian legends (for once) that Gawain really did get stronger around noontime. It comes into play when he fights Morholt, the guy who stabs Tristan, who has basically his own version of Numeral but for dusk.

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

It's linked directly to Gawain. It goes back to the actual Arthurian legends (for once) that Gawain really did get stronger around noontime. It comes into play when he fights Morholt, the guy who stabs Tristan, who has basically his own version of Numeral but for dusk.

Oh. Did not know that. But does Excalibur Galatine give its own sun boost or no?