Gordius Wheel is pretty ok. so. Anti-army NP fights army, Anti-army NP does pretty. Not very surprising.
Even then kinda rough for Iskander I think.
Otherwise I'd say it makes sense for it to be a get the king thing for IH to win. Since as already said Op's power isn't in just being an army.
Yeah the Ops main strength is that there unlimited. If it's near Moscow it's gonna be more dicy. That said, the one catchpoint is that to use the Ops Ivan must be asleep thus out of the fight. So ultimately your just up an army of mooks. If Billy was able to contend with them for hours inside the city Iskandar with his chariot will just be constantly destroying them
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
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This is just IH vs Ops tho.
If it was just Gordius vs Op then Gordius would probably win.
Same way Medusa would just destroy Iskander by belle ramming IH because what're the IH goons going to do? They can't handle Pegasus.
As for her fighting IH + Iskander, well that's just vs Iskander really lets be honest. Belle pegsus vs Gordius = just tackle them to win probably, and/or turning Iskander to stone. With Belle Pegasus is probably as strong, if not stronger than Gordius before the pressure of the eyes.
Medusa is strong even if I think she's boring as a char relative to the other F/SN chars.
Kinda, it’s just that Pegasus is inefficient when dealing with groups for long period of time. Uses to much magical energy, or that was the reason stated in HA. The IH soldiers are fodder(except for the generals) but being fodder is good in this situation. Since they will make Medusa go to empty more quickly. The same applies to her Mystic Eyes.
medusa is great at facing down mobs if she’s just using her chains and Blood Temple if she can set it up. Anything more then that drains her to quick.
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
blood temple can be instant however the range would be small as seen in extella and stuff
The reason why it took so long in SN was she needed to set up wards to extend the range to cover the school, rin was washing out the magical energy, and cos rider's master was shinji she couldn't load that much into it
Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions IThough abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
even if its small range she can use it for restore so she can fight for longer.
Basically planting a DoT with lifesteal/energy steal under your feet
Against IH you aren't fighting to win, you're fighting a battle of attrition, so anything that helps you fight for longer is going to help.
Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions IThough abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Your right the best way she can use it is as a mass lifedrain so that should make the burdens she suffers of high cost with her eyes and Pegasus more manageable. So that increases her chances. That said IH is a particularly bad RM to endure through since other then the start up cost it manages it self quite well since it's mana pool is the entire army. Meaning it can last quite longer then a normal RM. Even when it was fighting Gilles Massive Horror which was probably taking out dozens of soldiers per attack it lasted quite the while.
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
You know you can actually check how long it lasted because Fate Zero's chapter titles are time stamps of the events in the story.
-84:23:46
At point-blank range, Rider shouted and activated Ioniai Hetairoi. Archer and Berserker knew not the reason behind the fact that Rider and his subordinate Servants drew in the gigantic sea monster within the expanded Reality Marble. Nevertheless, not wanting them to be stained by another drop of mud, Archer foresaw the timing of the collision, and dematerialized his Noble Phantasms. With no intent of missing this chance, the demonic F15 twisted its nose upwards just before it touched the surface of the water, and escaped the crash with an almost-perpendicular course.IH lasted 4 minutes and was about to break.-84:19:03
Abruptly, restless tremors spread from the river bank all the way into its surroundings. Only the magi present knew just what these unexplainable tremor meant – the epicenter was probably the inside of the Reality Marble that Rider expanded. The powerful quakes of the raging sea demon were finally beginning to affect normal space. It was an omen that Rider's Reality Marble was finally approaching its ultimate limit.
Giant Monster is hardcore so normally it could last longer. But definitely not more than say 15 mins unless you plug him into a Grail.
Therefore, IH is not a bad RM to endure through and its one where every minute counts
Last edited by You; August 29th, 2018 at 02:24 PM.
Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions IThough abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
I don't remember reading the novel with timestamps. Thanks for the correction. I think I was just going by from what I remember from the jp wiki
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
Zouken vs Kayneth, both with their own weapon and in full power
we don't know the full extent of their power
If we're talking about old man Zouken, probably Kayneth.
Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions IThough abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.