Has this matchup ever been floated? Rin v Kiritsugu, no Jewelled Sword.
Has this matchup ever been floated? Rin v Kiritsugu, no Jewelled Sword.
Kiritsugu beat kotomine
kotomine beats rin
kiritsugu is a magus Hunter.
match is a wee bit lopsided
Originally Posted by Bird of Hermes
True, but transitive property isn't super exact in this scenario. Ultimately, it'd be decided by the Contender and the experience differential. I do think Rin could put up a decent fight though, even if she'd get outgambitted in the end.
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Also, I thought it was stated that Kotomine only beats Rin because he can pick at her psychological weaknesses really well.
I imagine it would go similarly to Rin vs. Kotomine: Rin is a much better magus than Kiritsugu and has the greater firepower, but Kiritsugu would probably beat her thanks to his skills and experience.
Yeah, I think so too. Speaking of Kiritsugu matchups, how do you guys think Zero!Kiritsugu vs post-UBW Shirou would shake down?
Shirou finds his long dead father figure
and gets shot
you're cruel aren't you
Origin round hits projected sword. If projected sword is still being projected, Shirou is now avocado. If not, machine gun swords versus actual machine gun.
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A little, but I'm also confident that Shirou could avoid getting immediately shot. That, and it would probably turn into another battle of ideals.
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But could Rho Aias block an origin round? That, and do Origin Rounds even dissipate magical constructs because I'm not so sure they do. I'm pretty sure Kayneth was hit more because either Kiritsugu shot through an opening in his defense or Kayneth spread it too thin, not because Volumen Hydrargum was nullified.
He'd avoid getting shot for at best 3 Minutes, then Kerry would do something unfathomably assholish and set Shirou off.
Then Kerry would shoot him because Guns>Swords (unless you have someone like Saber who can parry Machine Gun fire holding them)
The first time Kayneth was successfully shot was because he made Volumen too thin to block the big dick rifle bullet from the Contender.
The second time Kayneth was successfully shot was because his Mystic Code hooked to his circuits got hit by an Origin Bullet.
Yeah, that's what I thought, and thus Rho Aias could actually block an Origin Bullet, and so could particularly sturdy projections.
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Shirou can fire swords at the same speed as GoB, which definitely is faster than the average machine gun, let alone the Contender.
That, and post-UBW Shirou, or any Shirou really post-FSN, is superior to Kiritsugu in speed, power, and reflexes.
Unless he gets magical back up, I don't think Shirou can use UBW yet
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Can't he still launch weapons from his RM without actually casting it? Also, is his contract with Rin transitory or on a permanent basis?
Actually I think Shirou wouldn’t get that hurt by an Origin round, his circuits will still go crap but he won’t be that much damage. The damage from the bullet depends on the number of circuits which Shirou doesn’t have a lot. To us Nasu’s quote
.Nasu: To use an RPG analogy, the Origin Round is like an attack that converts the opponent's MP into damage. For example, Kayneth with his 3000 MP would receive 3000 damage against his mere 100 HP. For someone like Waver with 5 MP, he would only receive 5 damage against his 50 HP.
Last edited by Iceblade44; September 2nd, 2018 at 05:42 PM.
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Shirou has poor-to-passable reinforcement Magic, Kerry has Time Alter, he's definitely the faster of the two, and Shirou has no passive way to shrug off a Bullet- Unless of Course this is post UBW Good and Saber is with him, but then it just becomes Saber VS Kerry which... lol
Shirou's circuit count is actually quite a bit for a first generation, but they're of only average quality at best. 27 is a pretty high number considering Rin has 50 not counting her crest. Note that I'm not necessarily contradicting you here.
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Right, I did forget about Time Alter, but even then, that takes a toll on Kiritsugu. Also, I was thinking post-UBW True. Also, when I said Shirou was faster, I was thinking more raw speed.
Kiritsugu simply shoots Rin. She doesn't have feats to avoid continuous machine gun fire.
I'm not sure where the Shirou vs Kiritsugu started from. Kiritsugu gets wrecked if Shirou has his contract with Rin. Shirou should still have a good chance without the contract, but it's kinda hard to argue whether lasting less than a minute against amped Kuzuki gives him the speed to avoid machine gun spam. Shirou did get better after fighting Archer, but we don't really know how much.
We do know that even post war shirou would get curb stomped by bazett. Actually so would rin. Magus Hunter affinity means a lot.
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