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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    That depends on what you consider as the win condition here. If it's just beating the shit out of the other till the other side faint then it doesn't matter if you're immortal. Many of the ancient gods lost to Sefar in combat and still survived till much later cuz lul we're immortal. But if it's a fight to death then you have some trouble.
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    Not being able to die ≠ not being able to lose as evidenced by the fact that Kars was defeated after being Team Rocketed into Space.

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    Dammit sniped.
    True enough, and I guess I should have specified the win conditions. Personally, I'd make it the complete and utter destruction of the other.

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    Also, Nasuverse gods are immortal after all? I thought they were for the most part ancient aliens who were mortal, but empowered, and they were killable?

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    Mars/Ares suffered a humiliating lost to her, got his candy stolen by her, still went around doing his shit in later days and still hate Altera in 2030.

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    Now I have more questions than answers about the Nasuverse Gods? Did they already have godlike power before being worshipped by Earth's people or did the status of Divinity give them their Authority and immortality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Now I have more questions than answers about the Nasuverse Gods? Did they already have godlike power before being worshipped by Earth's people or did the status of Divinity give them their Authority and immortality?
    I mean
    when Tiamat reverts to the Jurassic era she gets 1000x sexier scarier and has no death sooo....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    I mean
    when Tiamat reverts to the Jurassic era she gets 1000x sexier scarier and has no death sooo....
    But was that because she was a god or because she was a Beast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    But was that because she was a god or because she was a Beast?
    The name "Regression to the Age of Gods" not enough to tell you?

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    I don't think you get a powerboost for being a Beast in the first place

    do you?

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    Other then the Nega skills and Independent Manifestation no i don’t think
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    I don't think you get a powerboost for being a Beast in the first place

    do you?
    The authority of the beast skills are arguably a powerboost
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    Not exactly what I meant with a power up, but fair is fair

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    So then were Gods deathless in the first place or only after they gained Divinity and Authority?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    I don't think you get a powerboost for being a Beast in the first place

    do you?
    Think it's the other way around. You need powerboost to become a beast. Goetia got energy from the incineration. Tiamat got Goetia's grail filled with mana, Kiara absorbed 100s of servants and demon pillars, Fou gets energy just by being around people.

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    To try and get back to what started this, who would actually win in a battle between Sefar and Ultimate Kars?

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    Sefar easily
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    To try and get back to what started this, who would actually win in a battle between Sefar and Ultimate Kars?
    Sefar. Kars is a non-threat and can still be pummeled into submission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronove View Post
    Sefar. Kars is a non-threat and can still be pummeled into submission.
    Even with the ability to produce organisms from his own body, the ability to copy traits of any Earthly creature, complete immortality, Hamon as hot as at least the surface of the sun, and his Light Blades?

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    Sounds like techniques requiring intelligence to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    Sounds like techniques requiring intelligence to me
    Wait, does Sefar's logic nullification apply to anything using strategy or thought? The Hamon part isn't necessarily requiring intelligence, since it is basically a huge amount of energy produced from the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Wait, does Sefar's logic nullification apply to anything using strategy or thought? The Hamon part isn't necessarily requiring intelligence, since it is basically a huge amount of energy produced from the body.
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    Exclusive skill of Attilaight Cell.
    The body of the Titan, composed of spiritron collectors, will unconditionally absorb "magical energy processed into techniques" and covert it into HP and Armor values.
    Techniques equate to skills, knowledge, and civilization. To an Anti Cell, there is no better form of nourishment.
    Any form of attack (interference) designed by intellect - however undeveloped the theory behind it may be - will only grant more power to Altera.
    The large firepower of greater magecraft and strategic weapons of science and technology will fuel the fire further.
    On the other hand, while pure magical energy - what can be called life-force itself - will also be mostly absorbed, it can still exert its regular effect.
    Facing against an Anti Cell, it comes down to simply "bludgeoning" it.
    Although this is a troublesome skill that can absorb even physical attacks boosted with Mana Burst, one thing can deal an effective blow. The energy discharge of the holy sword.
    The White Titan that had once appeared upon the surface was repulsed by the holy sword tempered in the inner sea of the Earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Even with the ability to produce organisms from his own body, the ability to copy traits of any Earthly creature, complete immortality, Hamon as hot as at least the surface of the sun, and his Light Blades?
    Sefar has like this virus thing that takes control of organisms.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
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    Sefar has like this virus thing that takes control of organisms.
    I see. Maybe Ultimate Kars' Hamon could count as Life Energy and thus bypass the logic absorption, and I feel Ultimate Kars could resist such a virus considering his own composition. However, I will submit that all his other techniques are basically useless, even the Light Blade.

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