Lecture others after you've learnt to make an argument without bias, not before. Up till now, you still haven't given a proper answer with any actual evidence other than wildly guessing capabilities or getting fixated on certain stuff and ignoring the rest. So you know, put up or accept that you have nothing other than wild guesswork for your argument that EMIYA has a winning chance vs Rama.Originally Posted by I Can't Believe It's Not A NoblePhantasm
Not sure if this contributes anything to the Rama debate, but in LB4 it is implied that he's more than just Vishnu's avatar but closer to a bunrei, meaning he can reach Vishnu's scale should his divinity is increased to the max (it's like Tamamo growing tails). So adult Rama might be him at Vishnu's lvl, or that's even a higher lvl. Currently we only knew that "being closer to Vishnu in Divinity" means more stuffs from the vault he can pull, however LB4 implied that there's more he can do than just that which we don't know yet.
Athanaton Ten Thousand vs Alf Layla wa-Layla
The battle occurs inside the Reality Marble
has sche been on the internet beforehand?
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Huh. Neat. He always was the most perfect of all the Avatars, even if I never liked him that much. Now I really want to see Nasuverse Krishna.
I.. suppose? I think every stories, whether correctly attributed to her or not, are part of her NP, including Peach Garden, Ys, Nightless City, Ryuuguu-Jou, and City of Gold in her Singularity.
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Emiyafabois always treat their boy as second coming of gilgamesh
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Wandering on internet
Actually, no. I do get to call your BS for consistently misquoting me. I have every right to be angry at your strawmanning, and your obstinence to check what I had actually said, which was this.
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In response to this.
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Look at my language. Notice something? I was saying that we shouldn't give a servant abilities in a VS debate off of pure speculation. I listed both Alkedides and EMIYA as examples of servants that have additional pieces to their arsenal that we don't truly know what they can do. What I said after this, was that Rama shouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt either. What you called "wild speculation" was me talking about what NOT to do in a debate, which started on Rama's side, with speculating that because he's an Indian hero, all of his NPs must be incredibly powerful by default, despite the fact that we obviously know nothing about them, and how they would play out in a fight. Since then, the conversation derailed into other elements of EMIYA's abilities, like his mana, or you saying a feat doesn't count because reasons. You also leapt from me saying there could be counters to Rama's NPs (as I've said before, hyperbolic speculation to mach Rama's hyperbolic speculation), to me saying that EMIYA could outnuke every Rama NP with an Indian NP without degradation on his part, something I never said. You also accused me of using speculation against Brhamastra specifically. I gave you specific weapons that we know EMIYA has that he could use to overpower it. Brhamastra is a weapon Karna has, so we can gauge its power through him, and his limitations can extend to Rama, since, as far as I'm aware, there's nothing lore-wise making Rama's more powerful. The only thing unique noted is that it has enhanced power against Demons. Very little of any of your replies had anything to do with what I've said. This is, by definition, a strawman argument, or you messed up, and never bothered checking to see what I was saying.
Now, the reason why I thought EMIYA could potentially do this at all, is because I thought blessings of martial arts didn't allow for his NP's full powers and were simply comparable to noble phantasms in general, leaving him with Brhamastra as his strongest weapon. This would put Rama on a lower level than he should truly be if summoned in a different class. However, I just found his interlude, and it confirms that my interpretation was wrong. They are the full NPs, so he does have an EX-rank anti-army NP. So he didn't get the Hector treatment. Rama does take this fight, and it's a mismatch.
Well, hopefully you've learnt not to take your wank too far.
Let's be honest here, there's nothing in the nasuverse that can defeat Archer once EMIYA starts playing.
Sure there is, it’s the cutaway to another scene.
They are different NPs. Karna's version is invoking Brahma's name for eye beam. Rama's version is the "Indestructible Blade" that Vishnu granted him. These 2 versions are so different that Karna was hyped to see it in action upon meeting Rama (Rama's interlude) and in LB4 Rama decided to give Karna his own Brahmastra so Karna can go super mode. Karna's version doesn't even have a rank or range yet.
Is Rama giving Karna his Brahmastra
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I'm not looking too deep into LB4 yet, so forgive my lack of knowledge.
Is Rama's Brahmastra basically just Nandaka?
Maybe it's modeled after Nandaka? Or just a conflation of the two? Since it's still called Brahmastra.
It's b4 the final fight. Prior to that, even with Shiva's power, Karna still cannot match Arjuna who also mastered Shiva's power then Vishnu's power and a bunch of others. Rama cannot fight due to having to bear the Krishna curse that he transferred from Ash to himself so he decided to give Karna his blessings as Vishnu's avatar by giving away his own Brahmastra. That ended up allow Karna to have Shiva + Vishnu's power merged (and Surya and Brahma as well), putting him on very close lvl at GodArjuna and victory is now possible.
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That's what I thought as well, because it is originally a bow. Now in that regard it might be similar to Archer Karna's Brahmastra since that one is also supposed to be a bow. The current ones? Quite different.
Can't wait for new Interludes/events where Rama suddenly pulls out Nandaka from Vishnu Bhuja cause he's so Di-vine.
I see. Thanks.
Primate murder vs Living Gilgamesh with all of the arsenal shown throughout the works.
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Doesn't Primate Murder need like 7 CGs (or is it Grands) to match it?
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