Badass Versus Thread

[Iceblade44]

that is what i figured. she barely uses her sword

Yes but we do know she has qualifications for Saber. Not so witb Lancer

[fire_mountain_30]

we do? i admit i wasnt aware

[Magikewl]

When Swimsuit Saber Jeanne gets released y’all are gonna be gagged!!

[fire_mountain_30]

When Swimsuit Saber Jeanne gets released y’all are gonna be gagged!!

is this a BDSM proposal?

[Arashi_Leonhart]

It's like the first line in her original profile. "A Ruler-class but also possesses qualifications as a Saber."

She also barely uses her sword because it kills her.

And not using the sword isn't really a thing anyway, since OG Saber goes around smacking people with a scabbard 95% of the time.

[Lily Emilio]

So we have a mix of two Servants with abilities we can only guess

iirc it was that normally when you summon Charlemagne you get a Servant who has aspects of fictional and reality mixed like other Servants. Karl and Charl being summoned separately in Link was an anomaly.

There will not be much (if any) difference really. Charles said that the one being summoned is basically Karl. The Karl you summon in a HGW will have identical stuffs as Moon Cell Karl but without virus. Aspects of Charles will be just dreams to him and won't have any bearing on what he current has.

[Reign]

Could Jeanne swing her sword around safely as long as she doesn't activate it? She does that in some of her Extella moves but those also have her using some fire attacks so y'know maybe just a game thing.

There will not be much (if any) difference really. Charles said that the one being summoned is basically Karl. The Karl you summon in a HGW will have identical stuffs as Moon Cell Karl but without virus. Aspects of Charles will be just dreams to him and won't have any bearing on what he current has.

Oh gotcha.

[fire_mountain_30]

She also barely uses her sword because it kills her.

i know, which is why i said it.

would her being a saber class not lead to the sword killing her?

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Could Jeanne swing her sword around safely as long as she doesn't activate it? She does that in some of her Extella moves but those also have her using some fire attacks so y'know maybe just a game thing.

Oh gotcha.

those also deplete her HP bar, i believe, so it still kills her

[Iceblade44]

I mean it does say it's technically that it counts as a C Rank NP when it's not activated so I say yes

[Zurvan]

One would assume so

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There will not be much (if any) difference really. Charles said that the one being summoned is basically Karl. The Karl you summon in a HGW will have identical stuffs as Moon Cell Karl but without virus. Aspects of Charles will be just dreams to him and won't have any bearing on what he current has.

Good to know, ty

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Obviously the class container will solve everything about her sword, it's not like we have an example of a Saber using her sword and then immediately dying from its use leading to a bad enwait

[fire_mountain_30]

that is a very specific case though with a lot of context behind it

[Menwearpink]

Solomon that isn’t fake grand Goetia is actually something we know nothing about in terms of capabilities beyond obviously he can cast magic and cheat moksha.

Karl is a more than a few steps above everyone else so he bullies hard.

George is really hard to kill but he’s also a servant that has to chain two NPs to hurt someone while having an absolutely abysmal mana stat.

Jeanne can mutual kill some of them.

David probably gets beaten up by people stronger than him. You can’t try to steal NPs if you’re dead.

actually no wait Martha can probably just wrestle everyone if that’s allowed.

[pinetree]

George is really hard to kill but he’s also a servant that has to chain two NPs to hurt someone while having an absolutely abysmal mana stat.

Not really, Ascalon can use the abilities of Abyssus Draconis and Interfectum Dracones by itself.

[Menwearpink]

Isn’t that like saying Gae Bolg can curse people and blow everyone up by itself.

[Deathhappens]

It's like the first line in her original profile. "A Ruler-class but also possesses qualifications as a Saber."

She also barely uses her sword because it kills her.

And not using the sword isn't really a thing anyway, since OG Saber goes around smacking people with a scabbard 95% of the time.

Scabbard with her sword still in it, though.

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those also deplete her HP bar, i believe, so it still kills her

Whatnotheydon't.

[forumghost]

It's like the first line in her original profile. "A Ruler-class but also possesses qualifications as a Saber."

She also barely uses her sword because it kills her.

And not using the sword isn't really a thing anyway, since OG Saber goes around smacking people with a scabbard 95% of the time.

*Imagines Saber running around beating people over the head with Shirou*

[Reign]

Sieg vs living Bedivere. Dead Count Shapeshifter included ofc, I honestly don't think he has a chance without it.

[castor212]

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No one is saying its mystery based

Some has it mystery based, some has it damage based, some has whatever based

And those are inferences. Like i said, NP is ???? Based.

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Iwhat about the whole "A rank attack = C rank NP" thing?

Thats incorr3ct

Its "A rank atttack done by normal attack = C rank attack done by NP"

That convonis talking about the rank of an attack that results, not the rank of the NP itself

[Iceblade44]

Sieg vs living Bedivere. Dead Count Shapeshifter included ofc, I honestly don't think he has a chance without it.

If dead count is included then Siegfried as he is would be super strong tho given the power of Bedi's arm it probably has enough power to deal serious damage even with AoF or maybe not. Don't know. Anyhow Bedi was able to go up agaisnt the likes of sun-buffed Gawain and manage a victory so against Sieg who isn't completely Siegfried I give it to him.