Badass Versus Thread

[castor212]

Its not unique stop uniqueing it

[castor212]

Muh mergeGoddamit zurvan

[Zurvan]

Muh mergeGoddamit zurvan

y-you too

[castor212]

Also just want to say but dragon core is not the prequisite for having magic energy burst, and Scathach is a Star type servant to begin with

[LJ3]

Annoyingly, Scathach's Wisdom says nothing about skills that induce a burden on the body like Imperial Privilege does.

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I like to think that in Presage Flower Cu feels the dirks coming and flexes hard enough that the wind pressure blasts them aside.

at first, I had thought PfA worked like Cu had that much skill that it didn’t really matter if he got shot at as long as it was within range

but then Presage happened and thinking about it, it actually fits, I just didn’t visualize that way.

Caster Cu, who's probably better than Scathach magic-wise considering he can make a Gate of Skye-alike and rip off her Wisdom with runes.

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He warps away Caladbolg in First Order.

its crazy to me that happened because Caladbolg can warp space too. Blows Medea the fuck out but then Cu happens. I guess Rune stuff is really that good.

Also just want to say but dragon core is not the prequisite for having magic energy burst, and Scathach is a Star type servant to begin with

I kind of feel that magical energy bursting is technically achievable by anybody who can control magical energy, just MB is the highest level possible

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

at first, I had thought PfA worked like Cu had that much skill that it didn’t really matter if he got shot at as long as it was within range

but then Presage happened and thinking about it, it actually fits, I just didn’t visualize that way.



its crazy to me that happened because Caladbolg can warp space too. Blows Medea the fuck out but then Cu happens. I guess Rune stuff is really that good.

I always thought PfA was just an automatic wind shield, but I guess the flex idea works somewhat.

Also, Cu has some Primal Runes, don't forget, and even if Medea does have High Speed Divine Words, Cu has a faster casting time and the aforementioned runes, which are ridiculously powerful.

[castor212]

Cu does not necessarily have faster casting times tho

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Mana Burst is the equivalent to what Sakura in Naruto does. Yes, any ninja in the series can expell chakra. No, not everyone has the reserves to spend or actual vectoring control to expel it focused enough to punch hard.

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

Cu does not necessarily have faster casting times tho

Runes are automatically faster than spell chants. That's why Scathach taught Cu runes.

[Rafflesiac]

Mana Burst is the equivalent to what Sakura in Naruto does. Yes, any ninja in the series can expel chakra. No, not everyone has the reserves to spend or actual vectoring control to expel it focused enough to punch hard.

saber has one good fight and then is more than useless for the rest of the show, wakaru wakaru

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Also the love interest to a guy that sometimes gets black marks on his skin, calls himself an Avenger when he's at his edgiest, but normally has an unhealthy obsession with a deceased family member and likes copying other people's abilities while screaming in a Sugiyama voice.

[8000]

In the first summer event Scathach gave herself animal dialogue. At throat time the only Servant with that skill was Kintoki. By the logic your using that shouldn't happen since he was the only who had it thus unique. Thus that way of thinking doesn't work. By unique it isn't talking about skills that are unique because few people have them. But skills that are calls unique since their inherently special with unique effects. Like Numeral for example. A skill that Scathach wouldn't be able to give herself that is a little common would be imperial privliage I think. Tho that's just my guess

Lobo is also revealed to have animal dialogue now and logically speaking I doubt those are the only two who have it. Regardless animal dialogue isn't like PfA which is a divine blessing (Touta's might not be, but we don't know where it comes from), I have a hard time believing Scathach can copy something like that. The fact that Imperial Privilege has a line specifying burdens of the body can be acquired suggests skill acquisition skills can't always grant those.

Although honestly, this is all speculation either way.

[Iceblade44]

I don't think Cu used his makeshift Gate to shift Caladbolg away. It looked like it got sucked of its magicap energy wh8ch is one thing the Gate can do

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Regardless animal dialogue isn't like PfA which is a divine blessing (Touta's might not be, but we don't know where it comes from),

It doesn't actually matter where it comes from. It matters whether its unique. It isn't unique, therefore, its up for grabs.

It's basically why she's partially a god, she spent so much time in the realm of the gods she's capable of their sort of dominion.

[Iceblade44]

Lobo is also revealed to have animal dialogue now and logically speaking I doubt those are the only two who have it. Regardless animal dialogue isn't like PfA which is a divine blessing (Touta's might not be, but we don't know where it comes from), I have a hard time believing Scathach can copy something like that. The fact that Imperial Privilege has a line specifying burdens of the body can be acquired suggests skill acquisition skills can't always grant those.

Although honestly, this is all speculation either way.

It being Divine doesn't make it unique. That's not how it works.

Wisdom can give skills that are of the body, like Clairvoyance. That said the one thing to keep in mind that all skills it gives can also be taught. Now you can say that makes it that PoA can't be given since Cu was born with it, but I don't think so.since in the VN the skill was described as Cu responding to air currents and killing intent. I think the skill can be trained.

[8000]

It doesn't actually matter where it comes from. It matters whether its unique. It isn't unique, therefore, its up for grabs.

It's basically why she's partially a god, she spent so much time in the realm of the gods she's capable of their sort of dominion.

I don't think unique literally means only one person has it. It can still be unique if it's restricted to a small enough group.

Then again, as of GO most skills are personalized, so I don't know actually...

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It being Divine doesn't make it unique. That's not how it works.

Wisdom can give skills that are of the body, like Clairvoyance. That said the one thing to keep in mind that all skills it gives can also be taught. Now you can say that makes it that PoA can't be given since Cu was born with it, but I don't think so.since in the VN the skill was described as Cu responding to air currents and killing intent. I think the skill can be trained.

It depends on how you interpret divine blessing I suppose, if it's something Cu could acquire because of divine heritage or if there's actually a god actively imposing the blessing upon him. The former is more likely upon reflection.

I don't think PfA can be taught though, at least not at the level Cu has. I think there's definitely an element of projectiles straight up being forced to miss, the way the VN described it Cu shouldn't have been able to block them all just swinging around his spear, and that some of them did get through the gaps in his swings. That implies it makes at least a few projectiles miss.

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

saber has one good fight and then is more than useless for the rest of the show, wakaru wakaru

Also the love interest to a guy that sometimes gets black marks on his skin, calls himself an Avenger when he's at his edgiest, but normally has an unhealthy obsession with a deceased family member and likes copying other people's abilities while screaming in a Sugiyama voice.

Cant' believe I didn't see that earlier. At least Saber quit whining once she got with Avenger boy.

[8000]

Scath can probably give herself some form of Protection from Arrows, but I don't think it would be as good as Cu's at least.

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

Scath can probably give herself some form of Protection from Arrows, but I don't think it would be as good as Cu's at least.

So like a Protection of Arrows (False) Rank C?

[You]

Runes are automatically faster than spell chants. That's why Scathach taught Cu runes.

That's normally true but not in the case when you compare it to high speed divine words.
Single runes are single actions (step).
High Speed divine word are faster than single actions (step).

Rin's Gandr shot and Rider's Mystic Eyes were Single Action. Shirou and Archer's lengthy incantation of more than five Bars approached Ten Count.
Caster's spells were only one Bar, but she could activate them faster than one Step, trumping mages of the same level in speed.
Even though Caster's spells were merely one Bar, their power was equivalent to spells of more than five Bars. Normal mages could not match them.