Badass Versus Thread

[Rafflesiac]

Technically the first was Drake, thus proving further that Fate/Extra is the root of all evil

[Spartacus]

running bazooka Russian-Japanese priest

[Tobias]

Piratits is good civilization and don’t you forget it

[Deathhappens]

Technically the first was Drake, thus proving further that Fate/Extra is the root of all evil

Insert joke about Drake's guns here.

[Menwearpink]

Guns work just fine for Billy.

In the end unless you're a servant with abilities to make you tanky, another servant hitting you clean is going to do damage.

[Deathhappens]

Guns work just fine for Billy.

In the end unless you're a servant with abilities to make you tanky, another servant hitting you clean is going to do damage.

Billy's gun is super-special and his Noble Phantasm, Drake's guns are at least a couple centuries old, Kerry's Contender is the true culprit here. I'm not biased I swear.

Back on topic, while Bradefer will be taking damage, her high defence combined with the Mash duo low attack power means she'll be able to withstand a LOT of punishment. And while the Mashes are plenty durable themselves, Braandpanties also has significant offensive potential.
It COULD go both ways, but I still think Brandnewservant takes this 60% of the time.

[Menwearpink]

His gun is high quality but it's not really all that special.

That's like a thing in his profile, and lost belt 1.

Also you're assuming that Drake's ghost gun copies get a Kanesada deal which hasn't been the case with any servant so far as far as I can tell.

Kerry's Contender is a mystic code. Also like you can hurt servants with a rock if you're a servant.

[Deathhappens]

You could, but that doesn't mean you will. Ganryu bent while clashing with Excalibur, theoretically bullets should be bouncing off magical armor entirely.

[Mcjon01]

That analogy is practically a non sequitur. There is literally no thread of connection between each side, it's just two completely separate sentences sitting next to each other masquerading as an argument.

[Tobias]

That analogy is practically a non sequitur. There is literally no thread of connection between each side, it's just two completely separate sentences sitting next to each other masquerading as an argument.

Mcjon, you didn’t do it right. If you are going to call someone out for a bad metaphor, you should ironically make a worse one. So what you are doing is like what happens when you are petting your cat, and it jumps off your lap, in so doing scratching your balls, but actually your balls happened to itch right then, so really it wasn’t a bad day after all

[Deathhappens]

That analogy is practically a non sequitur. There is literally no thread of connection between each side, it's just two completely separate sentences sitting next to each other masquerading as an argument.

Both are non-magical weapons used by Servants? Just like aforementioned rock?

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My point being they COULD in theory injure a Servant, but Servants tend to have magical protection which should require magical ways of getting through it. (Again, going by how regular-ass sword Ganryu bent when clashing with super awesome magical sword Excalibur). Why that isn't the case, is a mystery.

[madarra]

Saber`s mana burst skill has a extra section of how it breaks non-NP weapons in few hits its not clashing with Excalibur thats bending it

[Deathhappens]

I don't remember that, but that's still a side-effect of "hitting really hard", not a special ability or anything. When non-magical weapons (wielded by Servants) clash with magical weapons (wielded by Servants), the non-magical weapons lose out, except apparently for bullets.

[Iceblade44]

You have a misunderstanding on how general you are thinking of Excalibur. It is not simply a magical weapon and that every magical weapon is the same as it, it's on it's own tier of quality so it's not as simple to say that Kojirous sword would have broken the same way if it say hit Gae Bolg for example. By and large NPs are generally incapable of being destroyed outside of their owners but that doesnt mean there all the same though.

[Lily Emilio]

Just hit them hard enough, like Nero broke Galatine.

[fire_mountain_30]

You have a misunderstanding on how general you are thinking of Excalibur. It is not simply a magical weapon and that every magical weapon is the same as it, it's on it's own tier of quality so it's not as simple to say that Kojirous sword would have broken the same way if it say hit Gae Bolg for example. By and large NPs are generally incapable of being destroyed outside of their owners but that doesnt mean there all the same though.

servant weapons arent all NPs.

you see thar with altolfo's sword as well.

"regular" servant weapons are just inferior to legendary armaments.

NP weapons clashing seems to do no damage to both weapons, like with Diarmuid vs Saber

[Menwearpink]

There are plenty of super powerful non-NP weapons, like Tauropolos.

[Deathhappens]

Tauropolos is an NP though?

[RoydGolden]

Tauropolos is an NP though?

Only Nyatalante's version, and I think that's more of a technique with the bow than the bow itself.

[You]

Only Nyatalante's version, and I think that's more of a technique with the bow than the bow itself.

The Tauropolos which she employs as an Archer is absorbed into her own body and used to fire a single shot that is imbued with all her magical energy.
Rather than an arrow, this is more like a ballistic missile​.
Opponents that receive this are absorbed by a "darkness" with adhesive qualities and forcibly assimilated.
In order to resist this, an extremely powerful Magic Resistance skill is necessary.

I am the arrow of my bow