It's the bow that lets her go from D to A.Originally Posted by Zurvan
But its supposed to be an ability of an Archer to be able to higher higher than their base STR. How much that increase is depends on stuff.
It's the bow that lets her go from D to A.
But its supposed to be an ability of an Archer to be able to higher higher than their base STR. How much that increase is depends on stuff.
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well we know Emiya can't do it with his normal arrows seeing his fight with Herk, so I guess it depends on the quality of the bow the Archer have.
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He can't go from D to A but just because he can't go up 3 ranks it doesn't he he can't do it.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
True, his arrows can still hit very hard.
Thinking about which traditional archers do you think have the power in their bows that can do A rank attacks regardless of their strength. Arjuna's Gandiva is probably one of the best bows in terms of quality so he could probably do it, but he already has A STR so his arrows are overpowered anyway. Arash has the skill for it but I don't know if his handcrafted bow can do it, tho he did make it through the knowledge of a Goddess so who knows. i wonder about the others on what they can do.
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Emiya was firing from pretty far away. We don't know what a close range shot would do.
Are you implying that Emiya can damage Herc without a Broken Phantasm? Wew.
No, I'm just saying that instance doesn't show his limit compared other Archers.
So was Atalanta, range has nothing do with the power of an arrow.
Well it does a little bit, if it's following physics but bows and arrows are made to be fired from such a range regardless, and also bringing in the laws of physics of what a Servant can do is pointless.
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How was he limited? firing from such a range is what Archers supposed to do. Also compared to other Archers with higher Clairvoyance like Arash it's not that big when it goes down to it.
Last edited by Iceblade44; January 17th, 2018 at 11:53 AM.
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I don't know how far Atalanta was in the LN but it was pretty far in the anime, so actually fair enough.
Distance would diminish the power of an arrow, but it's true that we have no idea what kind of distance would be needed for the change to be significant among Servants. Ironically the anime had him firing from even farther but the arrows actually penetrated.
We've seen him do it in melee. Several times.
Then again, that's melee, and Nasu does seem to hate giving surprise- or distance-based opponents any attacks that actually work by surprise or at a distance. Kiritsugu doesn't manage to snipe a single competent person, Archer doesn't get a single ranged kill unless the guy is either a) completely unaware Shirou, or b) already mostly dead gil, struggling to pull himself out of a black hole, and Ciel doesn't even manage to kill Shiki with swords tossed out of nowhere.
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Not necessarily. He does it in the VN too, we just get to see the aftermath.
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Shoot, I forgot that Fate route exists. Ah well, anyway, what I questioned was whether or not 8k implied that Emiya could make an A-rank attack using only his bow and normal arrows. Sounds unfeasible to me.
The problem with that is, Herc will just auto-destroy the hell out of anything that isn't a dramatic sword strike.
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Across the street was not that far away.
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Rereading the LN to confirm yeah Atalanta fired from a very large range, so much neither Siegfried or Fran was able to detect her until that shot.
Also rereading it, from the looks of it piercing is Tauropolos specialty from the looks of it when it was introduced, though I have yet reread the part where Atalanta was going over the strengths of her bow it's still foggy for since how long it's been.
On the other hand, Archer naturally called forth a bow—a jet black Western-style weapon,bigger than she is tall. It is a celestial bow said to be granted to her by Artemis, the goddess ofthe hunt; its name is Tauropolos, one of the titles of Artemis, the boar-killer. It was a rare gembefitting such an archer. There is nothing it cannot pierce.
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Eh, that seems like regular Servant-related hyperbole.
Yeah, so it's best not to take it to literally. but Servants are after all nothing more than hyperbole manifested and it has lived up to it as shown with Siegfried and going by the description in Vol 4 Karna as well.
Do note I'm not fighting against that other Archers can't do the same, just that one of the traits that is special and noted about Atalanta's bow is that it has high-piercing,
or good crits
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Yeah just read the part to confirm, the ability of doing attacks higher then their strength is a hidden ability of Archers, tho it's dependent on the bow they have. Here's the quote about it anyway.
In fact, it is a technique that anyone who lives by the bow will certainly obtain. It is an authoritythat they naturally possess, regardless of classes or skills. Simply put: the stronger the draw, thestronger the shot. Furthermore, the bow wielded by the Archer of Red comes from the goddess ofthe hunt herself. By praying, by aiming, by drawing the bow with every ounce of strength in herbody, drawing beyond all limits—it can strike with the force of gods.
Last edited by Iceblade44; January 17th, 2018 at 03:37 PM.
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Well, an ability of archers, not Archers.
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