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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    dont expect me to believe your future statements on things when you refuse to either answer or give a quote or translation to justify your statement then.

    if you are mad bexause of the Karl related discussions on other threads, dont take it out on me, since i have done nothing but to ask on an elaboration to a previous statement that you made
    The meaning has been explained to you by multiple people, dude. If you can't understand at this point (e.g, your constant misconception on what destiny means in this context), just let it go.

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    I'm mad because you apparently don't understand shit even if it's super simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    Hmmm... In theory, you could also be so awesome at swordplay that Musashi's eye can't see a future in which she cuts you.
    Or like just stab her from behind
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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    dont expect me to believe your future statements on things when you refuse to either answer or give a quote or translation to justify your statement then.

    if you are mad bexause of the Karl related discussions on other threads, dont take it out on me, since i have done nothing but to ask on an elaboration to a previous statement that you made
    They gave the answer. The answer is both are true, the 2nd is explaining the first in more detail. That's it. The eyes cut through Destiny, but what does destiny even mean in this context, what effect is she actually doing by that. That is what the 2nd point explains. It's not that complex. If your asking how it relates to her NP it's just that the same cutting of Destiny applies to all of her swings, including her super cutting that it becomes a beam. Does that make sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Or like just stab her from behind
    Oh, sure, if you wanted to be REASONABLE, I suppose you could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Or like just stab her from behind
    Or throw dust in her eyes when she's about to use it. Yeah, now that I think about it, there's a lot of possible ways to get past it.

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    Okita Alter, Assassin Kerry, Emiya, and D-Meme in a free-for-all
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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    dont expect me to believe your future statements on things when you refuse to either answer or give a quote or translation to justify your statement then.

    if you are mad bexause of the Karl related discussions on other threads, dont take it out on me, since i have done nothing but to ask on an elaboration to a previous statement that you made
    This kind of attitude will surely encourage people to explain stuffs to you in the future. Totally.

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    I want to say Monk since i'd think his NP could deal with Li's surprise strikes maybe?
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    Inshun doesn't have the feats to beat Li. Also wasn't he effortlessly punked by Yagyu? I don't think he's on par with the big guys in skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    Inshun doesn't have the feats to beat Li. Also wasn't he effortlessly punked by Yagyu? I don't think he's on par with the big guys in skill.
    He's big enough that you had Musashi nearly having a panic attack seeing how skilled he was. He has plenty of skill on his own, you know Kojiro's skill that makes it that you can't read his attacks? He has that to at same Rank. Anyway though his whole NP is him assessing and coping with any fighting styles he sees, which makes Li's fighting with no Second Strike a little bit blunted as he would be able to adjust to it and be aware to not be hit.
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    he managed to land one killing blow on yagyu and pushed him back hard before being turned to lancer purgatorio

    that aint "effortlessly punked"

    bald monk-san is actually pretty up there in terms of martial technique
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    Also wasn't he effortlessly punked by Yagyu?
    You mean he was fighting 1v7 against the kengou servants to buy time for Guda and Musashi and Onui to escape right? And he did almost got Yagyu. That is no small feat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    They gave the answer. The answer is both are true, the 2nd is explaining the first in more detail. That's it. The eyes cut through Destiny, but what does destiny even mean in this context, what effect is she actually doing by that. That is what the 2nd point explains. It's not that complex. If your asking how it relates to her NP it's just that the same cutting of Destiny applies to all of her swings, including her super cutting that it becomes a beam. Does that make sense?
    yes, thanks

    upon reading the previous posts with greater attention, it just confirmed that we were all basically saying the same thing all along. it is just that a previous talk that I had with Mizu planted an incorrect idea in my mind.

    we were talking about straight up NP raw power and the way he said it implied that her NP was more than just an energy blade + Stand and that the energy blade had the ability to basically bypass durability and other things by "cutting destiny", instead of it just being an application of her ability to narrow down future possibilities. So, in summation, Mizu stated, or at the very least implied, that the cutting of destiny that the NP did was completely different from the way that eye let her do it, in a previous conversation, hence why i kept asking.

    also, i have always used the term "decide destiny" when talking about her eye, so when you all said "cut destiny" and didnt give me a satisfactory/straightforward "yes or no" answer (by my standards), i was never 100% sure if we were talking about the same idea or not. i thought we were and we were indeed, but the previous replies that i read werent straightforward enough for me to be 100% sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    He's big enough that you had Musashi nearly having a panic attack seeing how skilled he was. He has plenty of skill on his own, you know Kojiro's skill that makes it that you can't read his attacks? He has that to at same Rank. Anyway though his whole NP is him assessing and coping with any fighting styles he sees, which makes Li's fighting with no Second Strike a little bit blunted as he would be able to adjust to it and be aware to not be hit.
    This may be a taboo supporting argument.

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    I feel this has been asked already, but speaking strictly of swordsmanship skills, how good is Amakusa? How would he rank compared to other Servants who practice Japanese-style fencing, like Ushiwakamaru, Kojiro, etc.?

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    Okita Alter, Assassin Kerry, Emiya, and D-Meme in a free-for-all
    I don't know much about Okita Alter or Emiya Alter, but I think starting distances plus stealth opportunities would be decisive in this fight.

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    I think it was said that he isn't really skilled like Kojiro and such, and is instead quite lucky as opposed to skilled.

    Not that he's unskilled mind you, but probably more, above average? I'm probably wrong though

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    No he's average. He can make up a little with revelations and the EotM (False and True) his arms give him
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