do you really need to have Divinity to keep your Authority though? i know it is her Authority, but one doesnt seem to fully rely on the other.Originally Posted by Ronove
look at Quetz. she has goddess divine core EX and cant use several of her Authorities.
also, it isnt like you cant have a power but suffer drawbacks from it. it isnt uncommon in fiction in general or the nasuverse
Last edited by fire_mountain_30; August 9th, 2018 at 03:28 PM.
Really? But wasn't the mud born from all the evils of humanity?
A - did you not read YOU's input on the topic? we are probably talking about two different types of Divinity.
B - this whole thing started from discussing the Kingu scene with Tiamat. if she has divinity, but not the divinity that is relevant for how the chain works, which is the skill. if the chain focuses on a different divinity, why then use it for the argument of the effectiveness of NPs concerning their targets? and he didnt fail at his job. according to a discussion you once had on the topic, he held her for several hours.
C - how do you personally reconcile her Monstruous Strenght and its inherent relationship with demonic beasts and consequential loss of divinity with your argument that she still has substancial ammounts of divinity, which is what the chain targets?
Chain should work on both because it worked on Bull of Heaven and stuff
The chain should even work on Divine Beasts like Iskander's bulls
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
what do we even know about the bull of heaven though? i dont think we know much, besides him being both a god and a divine beast, but we dont have a stat sheet and it isnt a demonic beast but a divine one
Whats this about different kinds of Divinity???
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We'll we have seen the boar in FGO
There's more grail mud than just the Grail Mud in FSN
That quote is referring to shit that comes out of Grails as a general idea.
And the shit that comes out of Grails is "formless colorless stuff that can do anything"
while chaos tide is "stuff that can give birth to anything"
See the similiarities?
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
原初の生命。混沌の海。[r]魔術世界においては聖杯の泥と呼ばれるもの。
The origin of life. The sea of chaos. In the world of magecraft, it is called grail mud.
That's why I'm talking about the filter. Angra and Tiamat have slightly different orientations.
Localizationing stuff
dont freak out Skadi, your divinity is still the cute type
I'm more worried on what you guys are smoking
you telling me that the Apostoles of Jesus drank that stuff? that seems problematic.
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condensed Jotun tears
I see. So basically, the stuff inside the Grail is similar to (and might even be?) the chaos tide, but since Angra Mainyu tainted the Grail, it will only come out as the assortment of curses and evils. Thanks!
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No, because the Grail is pretty explicitly said to not the same thing as the cup from the Last Supper.
Okay first things first.
For Phantasmal Species the ranking goes
Monstrous Beast < Phantasmal Beast < Divine Beast
What downgrades your Divinity is if you are a Monster, different kanji to Monstrous Beast which is just a sub-classification of Phantasmal Species.
Can you be a Monster and a Monstrous Beast? Yes.
Can you be one and not the other? Yes.
So Tiamat is a Monster sure but that body is the body of a God. So it's still got Divinity.
Not the stat sheet Divinity that says "Aptitude as a Divine Spirit." But still divine.
Last edited by You; August 9th, 2018 at 04:12 PM.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
you just said "What downgrades your Divinity is if you are a Monster" and at the end you said "So Tiamat is a Monster".
so are you agreeing with me or did you misspeak?
I agree that Tiamat would have lower aptitude as a Divine Spirit as she is a Monster.
But it isn't a factor to begin with because Tiamat isn't a Divine Spirit.
She is a God with the body of a God.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
So her body can still exist in the World despite being made of True Ether, or does the mud change that?
Well back then the world was filled with true ether
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
My question was whether it can exist in the World now, which lacks True Ether.
Dunno but as long as it can spread its own true ether like the Flat Snark can it should be fine.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Any idea where Holy Beasts rank among the Phantasmal Species ranking, or are they still a vague classification in the Nasuverse?
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