Achilles only gets hurt by Chiron, he thrashes Astolfo, Frank and Siegfried around and dodges Vlad's stakes. Darnic gets impatient and uses CS on Vlad. Achilles turns into Pseudo Vampire Servant Achilles Alter
Achilles only gets hurt by Chiron, he thrashes Astolfo, Frank and Siegfried around and dodges Vlad's stakes. Darnic gets impatient and uses CS on Vlad. Achilles turns into Pseudo Vampire Servant Achilles Alter
Chiron snipes his heel while he's distracted with everyone else and after that it's open season.Originally Posted by Nobody
Achilles is good, but he's not seven Servants good.
EDIT: Well, assuming by Black faction you mean including Jack and Avicebron actually joins in the fighting. But five Servants aren't looking good for ya boi either, even if one of them is Fran.
Last edited by Deathhappens; July 21st, 2018 at 10:25 PM.
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
Part of me wonders whether or not Darnic would use his fake Divinity spell from Inheritance of Glory, but that necessitates Chiron telling him the info, and who knows if the matchup even includes Master support. Your take is funnier, but without Darnic around to force LoD it comes down to how well the other Servants can pin down Achilles for Chiron to landing a finishing blow.
Worst comes to worst, they can just dogpile on him. And it doesn't have to be Chiron that finishes him off if they stab his heel first.
...Actually, d'you think crushing it or otherwise damaging his heel count, or is Fran stuck trying to headbutt his leg?
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
Speak for yourself. Apo event had Chiron and Achilles stonewalling the other servants, while banking on Achilles' speed.
He still gets taken down by Vamp Vlad or a sneak hit from Chiron though.
...Who else would I be speaking for? Personally, I wouldn't trust an event (necessarily limited by gameplay) description all that much. Achilles can be as fast as he likes, he still has to stop to actually hit someone. Siegfried alone can tank many of his hits. Astolfo can use La Black Luna to stop him, at least temporarily. Jack has the same AGI parameter as he does, even if she lacks the gottagofast NP. Avicebron can use area attacks. And they all get to go together.
Frankly the idea that any Servant, even the most hyped ones like Herc or Karna, can solo entire teams of other Servants is absurd to me. Sure, not all heroes are equal, but they are all equally heroes. They ALL have "defies the odds" in their job description.
Last edited by Deathhappens; July 21st, 2018 at 11:45 PM.
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Once and always and nevermore.
All events are canon. Even the Eli-chan ones. Especially the Eli-chan ones.
Fran and Jack are dead weight. Avicebron can lock down Your Ass Is Grass assuming he's not going full speed, and a lucky Astolfo could do the same by knocking out the horses with La Black Luna; there's also Chiron once he masters the timing, but that requires some form of interference against Achilles. Vlad and Siegfried can decently tank, though they can't do much else. Tagging Achilles through Gotta Go Fast is a bitch and a half, especially since he can charge through anything that might hurt him with I Can Show You The World.
Meanwhile Achilles's best bet would be to go full speed on Your Ass Is Grass in midair and then run over everyone in flybys. It's only on the ground where he's got the chance for danger.
Team Black's best strategy is probably just to have Astolfo fly Chiron around for a dogfight.
Events are canon and this isn't gameplay, it was said in-story. Achilles's job, designated by Chiron, was to fight the other servants and then evade if they were going to call out their Noble Phantasms. That's a feat no matter what when Karna, Siegfried and Vlad (?) were among them. It shows he won't get wrecked just because he's fighting an entire team at least.
Chiron's the deciding factor here.
I mean eli doing silly things for attention isn't that odd really so that fits.
I'm more concerned about the fact that this means somewhere out there is a star wars type universe where Saber is the borg
Last edited by forumghost; July 22nd, 2018 at 01:30 AM.
Could Jack with the mist and misty night get a hit on Achilles' heel?
I don't think she could if Achilles was moving, but if he was caught off guard yeah.
One of the problems with that is if magical mist is starting to form around you, you're put on guard. So it'd be this weird thing where Jack has her best chance in the mist, but Achilles is also going to actually be far more cautious if in the mist.
Also Jack would need to know his identity beforehand, otherwise she's probably going to go for more conventional kill shots.
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Assuming the entire Black faction is fighting one dude, I assume the first thing Chiron's going to do is tell everyone who he is.
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Once and always and nevermore.
Wouldnt trap of argalia work? Also, cement form golems and makingbthe entire ground stakes and spawning stakes inside.his body
WHY do people think Achilles fight at superspeed?! Chiron and Siegfried hit him just fine, for instance - it's only his invulnerability which lets him tank Siegfried with no problem.
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What are Merlin's abilities?
Shakespeare vs Alexandre Dumas from FSF.
We don’t know everything dumas can do or even how he would fight. If Shakes against the little squad he buffed then he’d lose because he ain’t a fighter
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
I was more referring to a squad for each because both are meant to empower others.
Achilles dies horribly if he has a regular master, he barely has anything to hurt Siegfried alone and exhausts his energy doing so. Even hooked up to a trail he's not winning, they just have to destroy his chariot then Chiron and Vlad duo him. Vlad can hit the heel with stakes coming out of the ground.
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