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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    not that id dsiagree saberlot will win

    but i wouldnt call that stats almost matches
    Zerkerlot has one rank up from Mad Enhancement. It's hardly a huge gap, especially since Saberlot can rank up any of his stats temporarily anyways with his Knight Of The Lake Skill.

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    both of what you says are actually wrong Royd
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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    both of what you says are actually wrong Royd
    As far as I can tell, the only part of my post that was wrong was that Knight Of The Lake gives a + modifier instead of a rank-up.

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    Well, check both of their stats. It wasnt flat 1 rank difference for each phys stat.

    a plus on an A ranked stat is ridiculous boost

    Im not disagreeing Saberlot would still win in the end, its sort of obv even if a close one

    Im just saying that their base stat, i wouldnt call "almost" match either
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    Tristan vs. Cursed Arm
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    I mean Cursed Arm would die before he gets even close to Tristan.

    Tho I have to wonder in Camelot, when he did get that close why did CA just opt to release Devil arm then just normally using his Zabaniya?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    I mean Cursed Arm would die before he gets even close to Tristan.
    Would he? Assuming True Assassin gets close enough thanks to Presence Concealmente, can Tristan resist Zabaniya's curse long enough to strike TA before his heart is destroyed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    I mean Cursed Arm would die before he gets even close to Tristan.
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    Cursed Arm with help from Hundred Faces and Serenity couldn't take Tristan except by Serenity filling the area with poison. It was clear Cursed Arm can't take him alone without giving in to the devil and he was going to be killed outright before that happened.

    You could argue Tristan wasn't summoned by a grail there so his normal servant parameters might not apply, but I doubt that was the intent.

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    The Assassins aren't a match for most heroes, let alone the Knight classes. Have you forgotten how easily CA got his butt kicked by Medusa & Emiya?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddyak View Post
    The Assassins aren't a match for most heroes, let alone the Knight classes. Have you forgotten how easily CA got his butt kicked by Medusa & Emiya?
    How could anyone forget Assassinflail?

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    im not familiar with tristan so i have no input on this. but hassan cursed arm is strong if ever he gets his np in target
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddyak View Post
    The Assassins aren't a match for most heroes, let alone the Knight classes. Have you forgotten how easily CA got his butt kicked by Medusa & Emiya?
    In direct combat, sure. I'm thinking that without being hampered by Zouken's strategy, TA would be much more effective as an actual assassin.

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    Ereshkigal Vs Anastasia.

    Lostbelts servants are stronger than normal, but I believe the goddess is stronger.

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    Wouldn't classify Anastasia as a Lostbelt Servant

    Also Ereshkigal is very hard to do a VS debate. She's extremely territorial. If you're in her own ground you're pretty much fucked. If you're not she doesn't really have that much firepower. So it depends on whether or not she can pull off her terraforming NP

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    In direct combat, sure. I'm thinking that without being hampered by Zouken's strategy, TA would be much more effective as an actual assassin.
    Zouken's strategy was the only reason CA wasn't just straight-up killed off in his first fight. Without the Shadow, Saber would've chopped him into pieces, Rider would've penetrated him, Emiya would've kicked his teeth in, Herc would've killed him with a disapproving stare.

    You forget that in the Fuyuki Grail Wars the Assassin class was never meant to fight head to head, they were meant to target the Masters.
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    Zouken's strategy helped Cursed Arm, he actually landed two kills on servants.

    If the idea is that he'd otherwise fighting using stealth in mid-combat, he didn't do that in Camelot either. I think mid-combat stealth just isn't effective for most Assassins. Unless he starts out of sight it shouldn't work.

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    Zouken had him fighting Herakles in CQC! That's a complete waste of his talents. I'm not saying Zabaniya would affect Herakles, but you don't put a Backstab-specced Rogue in melee range with a two-handed weapon Barbarian!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    Zouken's strategy helped Cursed Arm, he actually landed two kills on servants.
    Who? He only killed Cu, he didn't even touched Saber. Unlike Cu, Saber was eaten alive by the shadow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Rebellion13 View Post
    Who? He only killed Cu, he didn't even touched Saber. Unlike Cu, Saber was eaten alive by the shadow
    Well I mean he tried, but Saber decided to re-enact her battle with the Black Knight and take CA's Arm off.

    And killing Cu doesn't really count IMO. he basically just led Lancer to the Shadow, and did a killsteal after Cu was already mortally wounded and out of magical energy.

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