Can Spidey's Speed stat and spider sense overcome his E-- Luck
Can Spidey's Speed stat and spider sense overcome his E-- Luck
That's mostly travel speed and I would consider that an outlier.
Cu also has rune spells to use aside from his spear while spidey only has his webs and acrobatics stuff. Though I am curious if spidey can avoid it when Cu throws his gae bolg.
Be sliced by the blades of summer snow, fragile thing..
If Archer needs to block Gae Bolg because he can’t dodge it, Peter dies from the thrown version.
Also if we do go off high end feats we also have to bring in Gilgamesh catching a lightning speed arrow, so Peter loses no matter how you look at it. Servants are absurdly inconsistenT, but Cu should always be superior if we’re comparing highs and lows from both.
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Can Spider Man beat up a ghost?
Please tell me he actually does in the comics
He doesn’t have a way to hurt Cu in spirit form, no.
If we go off high end feats Peter can beat Firelord, so...Originally Posted by 8000
Lol, I feel like that’s more about Firelord suddenly becoming incredibly weak than anything.
well I mean I think the actual point of contention would be he doesn't actually have a way to hurt Cu period, since you have to have spiritual alignment stuff to affect Servants at all
on the other hand there is that whole web of life thing if you want to count that
but yeah Spidey is top-tier street level but that just means he'd be fine in contention with the mortal characters and have hella trouble with the Servants or DAAs or something unless he had clear affinity
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I’ve never been too clear about the whole Servants being immune to non-magic damage given Kuzuki was able to smack Emiya in the face. It didn’t hurt him because he was too weak, but it didn’t pass through him either.
I think Rin explains that well enough
not the punching Archer in the face bit, is that from the anime?
No, they skipped it in the anime. That was the VN.
Rin did explain it but it’s never actually been shown and then you have stuff like Kuzuki pinching Emiya and I’m not really clear the intention.
Ryougi Shiki (3rd) vs Okita
Be sliced by the blades of summer snow, fragile thing..
it's not meant to pass, it's meant to do zero damage
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
The punch in the face can happen or not depending if you choose to try to stop him in the VN
Why would it pass? He's a physical dude then.
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I'm going to say this again
You don't understand what an outlier is
That is seriously small time for Spider-man, he's literally outpaced explosions and machine gunfire by evading or with his webs before and smashed a small tank
the problem is Cu is can keep up with him at worst and either usage of GB is an instant win for him + Spidey has no method of actually hurting him
Gáe Bolg has a charging time, and Spider-Man has one of the best danger senses in fiction. He can move out of the way, or at the very least web Lancer up.
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See, Spider-Man's adventures are usually street-level, but his power level is actually quite higher than that of the other Marvel Knights, and his power set is extremely effective at one-on-one duels.
That said, Marvel writers are much more inconsistent than Fate writers. Spider-Man once humiliated an entire X-Men team in "Secret Wars" and has also beat Firelord, but was defeated by Daredevil in the "Sin Eater" storyline.
I don't believe Spider-Man can actually outrun explosions or bullets except in brief bursts. Avoiding them has nothing to do with actually being faster than them when he has Spider-sense. He's been extremely pressed trying to outrun heat seeking bullets and questioned his ability to catch them which is reinforced by his clones having the same doubts. Peter has also consistently blitzed by Speed Demon who is only supersonic on average, sometimes to the point of being utterly helpless to tag him (incidentally Speed Demon was moving fast enough to throw 100 blows in a second in one of those cases. Sounds familiar).
I understand what an outlier is (not sure where that came up before?), outliers aren't all on the same level. Some are massively above others but still not consistent either way.
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