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    Badoom-TISH!
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    There are still debates if the original being male is true or fake news even after years, so I think Ammy is still safe...for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily Emilio View Post
    Originally Amaterasu is a male deity known by the name Amateru tho.
    Huh. I had no idea. That's really interesting, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    Huh. I had no idea. That's really interesting, thanks!
    I knew about the stuffs awhile back but it didn't sound interesting to me until recent stuffs with alternate history, lostbelt timelines, and especially the latest Guda event. I wonder if Amateru is a pruned history in TM due to the documents telling his story is considered to be fake news by a lot of scholars in Japan (yet they cannot fully debunk it, still a topic of debate now).

    Not surprising since his story told a very different legend of ancient Japan, in which "kami" are not referring to actual gods but nobles of royal family. Amateru was first and foremost a normal human dude who played a role similar to Rama or the Yellow Emperor in uniting the country, inventing a lunisolar calendar system, destroying rebels led by his brother SusanoO and promote the philosophy "way of heaven" which is quite similar to Taoism but has certain differences. The mythical legend told in Nihon Shoki and Kojiki seems to be based on his story, with him being genderbent maybe due to propaganda and people associated with him were elevated to godly status. Omoikane - one of his trusted scholar became the god of wisdom. Toyouke - his mentor who taught him how to read, write and the way of heaven (sounds like the Tao in Taoism) became the goddess Toyouke who serves Amaterasu (another genderbent victim). Even the incident of the cave also had different implications. In Amateru's case, he was mad at SusanoO's rampage, but instead of acting like a spoiled kid like his genderbent version, he tried to reason with his brother to calm the guy down. He hid in the cave not because of anger, but self disappointment of his own failure to educate his brother (basically hid away in shame of his incompetence than getting pissed). And his friends and followers (elevated to gods in myth version ofc) tried to get him outside by ordering the Uzumes dancing (no stripping like in Amaterasu's case). There are a lot of "missing links" such as gods whose name cannot be found in myth yet worship for a long time, their names were only found in his story and not Amaterasu's basically.

    Basically if Nasu is aware of this stuff then Amateru's world was pruned in favor of history where fox girl is dominant, he is a forgotten legend. I doubt Nasu would bring it up tho, that would break the heart of some delicate fox fans out there. I don't, cuz I even knew about this since I played SMT where they had Amateru in there several times lol.

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/..._have_a_match/

    Zelretch, the one who defeated someone who's canonically stronger than fox, can't beat fox? Downplay is real.

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    Young Joseph beat Ultimate Kars but Old Joseph can’t beat Dio

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    >reddit

    >canonically

    and here I thought I'd have to entertain myself

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    Gilgamesh, the one who defeated someone who's canonically stronger than Shirou, didn't beat Shirou? Downplay is real.

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    Reddit says dumb things.

    i don’t think Ammy could handle a prime Zel super cannon tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastXxx View Post
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    Zelretch, the one who defeated someone who's canonically stronger than fox, can't beat fox? Downplay is real.
    is Crimson moon stronger than an alien with the power of a star?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Young Joseph beat Ultimate Kars but Old Joseph can’t beat Dio
    Did you plan this too, JoJo?!!!!!!

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    Zelretch, the one who defeated someone who's canonically stronger than fox, can't beat fox? Downplay is real.
    Why?
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    I speak for the majority of important people* *a category comprised entirely of myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Young Joseph beat Ultimate Kars but Old Joseph can’t beat Dio
    Bad idea trading in the Super-charged Volcano helper for that useless grandson of his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    is Crimson moon stronger than an alien with the power of a star?
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    For example Arcueid is said to be the strongest in the world of Type-Moon, but at the same time because she's in love with Shiki she tends to give in to what he says. At those times the man is the one put in a superior position. If it were truly even, Arcueid could use her superfluous power to send Shiki flying. Like "you two-timing bastard.
    Fate Extra mats

    Incidentally, in the world of EXTRA where the information world takes precedence over the physical world she is no longer the Strongest.
    This is because in the information world legend becomes reality and natural phenomena that have been incarnated as "Gods" can often hold more power than their original natural existence does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    is Crimson moon stronger than an alien with the power of a star?
    Berserker was originally an spirit from the Earth called "True Ancestor" but, due to Gatou's misconceptions that say "she = God" her status downgraded from Planet to God, making her unable to properly display her abilities.
    downgraded from Planet to God
             

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    I relate the events of yesterday to Rani. She's sitting up on the bed, looking much more spirited than at the start of the week.

    Rani: A True Ancestor?

    Rani's eye pop open wide at the mention of that phrase.

    Rani: No, that cannot be. Are you sure that you are feeling all right?

    Rani: My professor taught me that the True Ancestors are the very planet itself.

    Okay, but how could Gatou wield a planet? Maybe he can because of her Blind Rage.
    TAs really are amazing.

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    Gives Siliam's appearance in back alley more weight
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    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastXxx View Post
    TAs really are amazing.
    That quote out of context is pretty hilarious.

    "How could he wield a planet? Maybe because it's really angry!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastXxx View Post
    TAs really are amazing.
    Sounds more like it’s Gatou that’s amazing to me

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    It’s a a shame he fell for arc, he seems like if he tried he could gatou’ duh gurlz
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    The moment the opportunity arises for a pun, the one known as 'Taiga's Knight' will be there to deliver whether you like it or not.

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    Saber Sigurd vs Archer Arjuna

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    Diarmuid vs Siegfried.

    I freely admit I may be overestimating Diarmuid or underestimating Siegfried here.

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