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    Fleur de Lys?
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    Next youll be telling me Izo is moonwalk master
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    Fleur de Lys?
    I don't see how he will make all those flowers come out of nowhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    Manslayer canon depiction is sword skill to win agains peeps with your blade

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    I still think that nerf is a typo/parsing problem
    A non anti unit sword skill just doesnt seem to exist
    And if it does, theres gotta be so few of em
    The nerf just isnt making any sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    I can definetly see him beating Okita. Maybe Musashi too if she doesn't summon her stand. Honestly out of all of them tho Inshun would be his biggest threat, he can see through all of Izou's styles.

    Also note if Izou becomes a Chaldea regular where he retains memories and sees more fighting styles. It is possible he'd surpass that diamond paper barrier and be stronger then Li. Only if he shows up more.

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    Killing humanoids. That is what the skill does in-game so it applies to Servants. Given it's simple function as well should still work ok in proper lore to
    There is no way Okada can beat Musashi in a million years.
    All these styles are rendered null with Musashi's eye of nothingness. You cant even put him in the same conceptual level as Kojirou in the hypothetical battle of infinite vs zero as he is unable to go any deeper than the surface value of his copies. Half of the reason these styles are important is because of the following skills that come tied to it which he also can't copy.
    I mean it's very clear that Okada wishes he was close to her level seeing his 3rd Ascension but i don't see it.

    I'd put Okada on the same level as Okita i guess but she can probably BTFO him with Sandanzuki or the flag of sincerity.

    Martial Autist is not a typo

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    Okadas third ascension has nothing to do with Musashi, what are you talking about? It similar but that's a coincidence. Also Musashi eyes give her nothing to counter his styles, it only makes what she wants to cut happen. It's her other skill Nothingness which is her mental state that would deal with that. It's semantics but I just wanted to put out there different.

    As for whether or not he can't beat Musashi, I'm not so sure. Yeah you can argue that in terms of abilities and skills she has the advantage. But he is still very much a deadly opponent. Manslayer means that his blade that while lacking in learning is still gonna be enough to kill you. I am fine saying that Musashi would win, but not that Okada wouldn't be tough opponent to do so. As I said earlier, only paper thin difference between him and Li and that's scary.

    Also anyone knows what this says? It's apparently the description of his third skill which has a very impressive name. Seeing it's length tho I wonder whether it has any good info or not.
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    Whatever 'this' was, it didn't post.
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    Lacking in learning isnt a manslayer thing, its an izo thing

    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    Manslayer: A
    A swordsmanship Skill specialized in killing humans with a blade.
    A practical swordsmanship that puts victory as its sole purpose, completely unrelated with the mentality of a pathseeker.
    And so, it is strong, yet brittle.

    I guess this is the key difference between Izo and other nipponkenshi
    Izo's swordsmanship is to win against other peeps
    other samurais wants to reach enlightenment/achieved Zero/kill swallows
    Manslayer is about going practical instead of enlightenement/philosophical

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    I dont know how would that go in english without sounding awkward, but in Izo's profile it represents Izo's sword during his dojo wandering journey. To quote, he kept on learning new styles from various dojo but quit halfway because in his eyes, all dojo-based peeps is below him, and the profile said "which seems to be a fact"
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    Like, so is the argument that Izou could win against Musashi if Musashi decided not to take him seriously?

    Isn't this kinda like how Archer Arm Shirou can 'beat' Saber Alter when she's basically doing her best to let him win?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JetKinen View Post
    Do you lads think Okada can win against any of the Sword Saints and fellow Martial Autists?

    Li Shuwen
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    Musashi
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    Izo could probably off pre Shimosa Musashi, but post Shimosa Musashi hahahaha

    Tell Izo to beat Raikou and Shuten first then come back again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    Manslayer canon depiction is sword skill to win agains peeps with your blade

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    I still think that nerf is a typo/parsing problem
    A non anti unit sword skill just doesnt seem to exist
    And if it does, theres gotta be so few of em
    The nerf just isnt making any sense.
    Uhh what was it again

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    I'm pretty sure the artist, Lack, has been confirmed that Okada's appearances in his 3rd ascension is very much a reference to Musashi.
    Also say Musashi decides to cut him down with her eye that can lock down something's future down. How do you suppose Okada would escape from that? He doesn't has that conceptual dueling going for him that Kojirou had with the Infinite.

    Just color me unimpressed with Okada.
    He poses as Sakamoto, immediately gets his disguise blow up by using an style that Sakamoto never used, OOPS. Thanks Settlement Sword
    Takes a master as a hostage gets blown up by Shuwen
    faces Shuwen 1v1, loses to him again.
    Beats some Nobus

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    To continue about my parsing argument

    During koha ace, izo's restriction uses もの to define things that are to be unreproducible.

    But in fgo its
    ただし再現可能な剣技には制限があり、対人のものである事
    また宝具の特性に依存したものは再現不可能となっている。
    It uses 事 instead to refer to "existing restriction" and has a また afterwards to separate it with the np based sword stuffs

    Now, BMCMIIW, but for me this is might actually be saying that the restrictions are
    1. Must be anti unit
    2. Np based sword skill cant be reproduced

    That is, rather than anti unit sword skill being unreproducible, it is instead that is it must be an antiunit for it to be reproducible.

    Which would mean that it is not a nerf, but a wank instead.

    Bmcmiiw tho.
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    Actually im p sure thats the case

    They wouldve use just 対人のもの instead of 対人のものである事 otherwise
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    I don't think I really understand what this means.

    Can he copy Thunderer? It's a technique, anti unit and not a sword skill.

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    The profile said sword skill.
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    Well,it would make sense if he could only copy anti-Unit skills since it fits his character as a duelist and whatnot

    Therefore, it's almost certainly not the case.

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    ただし再現可能な剣技には制限があり、対人のものである事、また宝具の特性に依存したものは再現不可能とな っている。

    However, there is a restriction on sword skills that he may reproduced has a restriction; that is, it must be an anti unit. And to add, things that are dependent on characteristic of a Noble Phantasm are impossible to be reproduced.
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    How a single sentence can be parsed as a wank and nerf.

    Japanese.


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    All this means is that eventually Izou will come across Herk and Keikenchi will get in his Kuzuryuusen shoutout.

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