Or does Cu have to outright control it?Originally Posted by Rafflesiac
Or does Cu have to outright control it?
True but does AoFs protection extends to the innards of the body or does it just stop at the skin. Because Gae Bolgs thing is that it effects the heart only, if AoF doesn’t signify his whole body I can see the spear possibly working
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I actually think Cu does really, or at least that’s what the animations in UC and Link make it seem, but I wouldn’t say that is completely trustworthy
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
curse:
>groping whole siegfried's bod
>"shit i dont find any entry point what is with this chastity belt"
>find one completely unprotected hole
>"well when you gotta go you gotta go"
I would say it depends on whether or not magical energy circulates through AoF like it does for Kavachi and Kundala. If so, then the magical energy of theshould block the curse.shieldarmor
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I dunno man, just look at UBW anime. Cu fires it straight at Saber and it doesn't dodge her sword.
No but it insteads reverse time so that it did dodge it
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
imo thats more of the luck factor at play changing d-d-d-destiny
something2 along the lines of artoria's luck was enough to offset the curse
sigfried tho, e rank luck, rip
if jack used maria the ripper at siegfried's front would he automatically be dissembled from the back
its the same mechanic
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ok a more thoughtful reply now that i had some good banana for breakfast
my line of thinking is
the curse of reversing causality has to activate first
the curse can be denied if one possess a shield that can overwhelm the magical energy of the curse
lets assume aof is one
aof can deny the curse but there's a spot that doesnt, so the curse just go through the weak spot
the curse does not need to go around Saber's armor or specifically target eyeballs because neither of those are shield that overwhelm the magic energy of the curse
is how my line of thinking goes
but from the visual of gae bolg we now have it's a directed curse beam
So why would the curse affect siegfried's back if it hits the front?
if you can block a gandr with your reinforced fist and it doesn't make you sick. Why is the gae bolg curse any different?
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Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
If we treat AoF as a shield, then that begs the question of can go Gae Bolg go around shields? Obviously not, as Nasu's statement that good enough shields work would be meaningless otherwise. But wait,has a hole in it, you say. Which is true. But Gae Bolg doesn't have much variance when you aim it, as shown by the statement and by the UBW anime, where Gae Bolg moves slightly to the side to impale Saber, which gives her the chance to deflect it into her shoulder. If it was capable of moving farther, then it would whip around and hit her from behind or something equally impossible for her to block.AoFthis shield
To use an analogy:
1) Cu shoots his trusty gun Gae Bolg
2) GB fires a bullet (the curse)
3) If there's nothing in the way of the bullet, the target's within range of the bullet, and the target doesn't mitigate the bullet, the curse lands
4) Heart = stabbed, spear follows suit
Since Armor of Fafnir's perfectly functional from the front, as long as Sieg(fried)'s facing Gae Bolg step 3 should whiff because there's something in the way.
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gae bolged by you, rip
Wait, but can't Cu boost the rank of the Bulge with his runes? That would bypass AoF's Rank check.
i disagree that that beam is the curse itself
the beam is the spear being bended
the curse is reversing the causality
thats now hoe my line of thinking goesSo why would the curse affect siegfried's back if it hits the front?
the curse itself doesnt hit the front to begin with, the curse hits from the back
the curse hits from the back, the spot that doesnt overwhelm the curse, so the spear also hits from the back
if the curse wants to make the stabbing happen then the easiest way is to bend the spear through the back
if the curse can make the spear zigzagging avoiding fragarach's shooting path, then i dont see why it cant make it zigzag to the back
because the gandr hits the reinforce fist, not the unreinforced body partif you can block a gandr with your reinforced fist and it doesn't make you sick. Why is the gae bolg curse any different?
if the gandr hits the unreinforced body part then it makes you sick, no?
if the GB curse hits you in the back then youre stabbed in the back
True. But can Illya?
this is convincing and make sense
i yield
i suppose cu would just need to activate Gae Bolg from behind Siegfried's back to begin with thenTo use an analogy:
1) Cu shoots his trusty gun Gae Bolg
2) GB fires a bullet (the curse)
3) If there's nothing in the way of the bullet, the target's within range of the bullet, and the target doesn't mitigate the bullet, the curse lands
4) Heart = stabbed, spear follows suit
Since Armor of Fafnir's perfectly functional from the front, as long as Sieg(fried)'s facing Gae Bolg step 3 should whiff because there's something in the way.
Probably ends up like Siegfried has anecdotes of dying to a spear to the back. Cu has a history of killing people with invincible skin/bodies through a weak spot.
as for the curse I don’t think AoF is a magical energy shield exactly. Isn’t it more damage soak than anything?
I forgot who this VS was even about in the first place.
Pleasure doing business with you.
Where was it mentioned that Gae Bolg could be countered with a good enough shield? Just curious.
When Saber fights Cursed Arm Hassan in Heaven's Feel. Gae Bolg is referenced in relation to Zabaniya's activation and we get the details on 3 possible counters.
Thank you very much. I had completely missed this.
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