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  1. February 27th, 2020, 02:36 AM #125121
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    I was wrong sorry, i said nega-genesis cuz someone in Babylonia thread refered to thr pink barriers that blocked Xiuhcoatl as Nega genesis,not Selfmodification mustve missed the correction.

    I only saw the anime so i did t know the grail means shit to tiamat i just heard Ishtar call bullshit on Tiamat flying and believed it to be the grail cuz its usually at fault for bullshit.

    The real point was that people downplay Yucatan impact cuz it only cracked a horn through A++ damage reduction. I guess it'll only break Karna's back through 90%damage reduction...


    I feel like 90% is to real for people and makes them suffer from % biasses
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  2. February 27th, 2020, 02:54 AM #125122
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    Quote Originally Posted by madarra View Post
    I was wrong sorry, i said nega-genesis cuz someone in Babylonia thread refered to thr pink barriers that blocked Xiuhcoatl as Nega genesis,not Selfmodification mustve missed the correction.
    Self-Modification doesn't make barries. And the immunity to A++ or less only comes into play once she's in dragon form.

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    Self-Modification: EX
    Tiamat can remold her own Saint Graph using the Black Sea of Life.
    Her body can grow from its standard Saint Graph (Femme Fatale) into that of a dragon over 60 meters in length.
    Once Tiamat becomes a dragon, attacks against her of A++ rank or lower are nullified.
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    Nega-Genesis: A
    A Skill of the same kind as “Nega-Messiah” that Beast VI possesses. A conceptual Bounded Field that entirely disproves the predictions of how the earth was created, the current evolutionary theory. By carrying this, Beast II nullifies Noble Phantasms of Servants born from the proper human history. Specifically speaking, a barrier takes root against the Noble Phantasms of Servants with the attributes “Man” and “Star”.
    Neither of these fit the barrier since Self-Modification is just a kaiju form change thingie and Nega-Genesis shouldn't come into play against Quetz
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  3. February 27th, 2020, 03:03 AM #125123
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    Unless Quetz is hiding a secret star atribute from being space bacteria. All the other space servants are star IIRC, but this is just a joke.
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  4. February 27th, 2020, 03:15 AM #125124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronove View Post
    That's not Nega-Genesis. That's a flat immunity to attacks/NPs from servants of "Man" and "Star". It didn't proc against Quetzalcoatl.
    I mean unless she tried to force activate it and it broke because Qutez isn't man or star.
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  5. February 27th, 2020, 03:19 AM #125125
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    Quote Originally Posted by madarra View Post
    Unless Quetz is hiding a secret star atribute from being space bacteria. All the other space servants are star IIRC, but this is just a joke.
    She did change the fate of mankind

    By, like, exterminating the dinosaurs and allowing mammals to take the top seat
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  6. February 27th, 2020, 03:42 AM #125126
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    Quote Originally Posted by madarra View Post
    I only saw the anime so i did t know the grail means shit to tiamat i just heard Ishtar call bullshit on Tiamat flying and believed it to be the grail cuz its usually at fault for bullshit.
    I mean, Roman said she is the ark of god, capable of interstellar travel. You'd expect she's able to at least lift herself off the ground to get off the planet.

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    I mean unless she tried to force activate it and it broke because Qutez isn't man or star.
    In gameplay the skill effect is seal NP of all for 3 turns. Maybe they went meta on that and made it a barrier to block Quetz's NP.
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  7. February 27th, 2020, 03:43 AM #125127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    She did change the fate of mankind

    By, like, exterminating the dinosaurs and allowing mammals to take the top seat
    Good luck getting people to accept gameplay and story segregation.

    Maybe attacks can have different atributes from their servants.
    Excalibur for example, a sword forged from the hopes and dreams of humanity sounds like something that would be man or star. But under current rules it goes through cuz Seiba's a earth servant.
    At the same time good luck convincing people that Excalibur wont turn into proto Excalibur with bonus damage against ancient aliens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    She did change the fate of mankind

    By, like, exterminating the dinosaurs and allowing mammals to take the top seat
    Good luck getting people to accept gameplay and story segregation.

    Maybe attacks can have different atributes from their servants.
    Excalibur for example, a sword forged from the hopes and dreams of humanity sounds like something that would be man or star. But under current rules it goes through cuz Seiba's a earth servant.
    At the same time good luck convincing people that Excalibur wont turn into proto Excalibur with bonus damage against ancient aliens.
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  8. February 27th, 2020, 12:44 PM #125128
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    Thinking about it now, couldn't Piedra del Sol block out Vasavi Shakti a la Akhilles Kosmos, seeing that it contains the past, present and future of the world?
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  9. February 27th, 2020, 12:56 PM #125129
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    Piedra del Sol doesn't offer Quetz protection. When she was attacking the chaos tide in the game, the Lahmu pierced her body.
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  10. February 27th, 2020, 12:59 PM #125130
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    I meant the Megalith, not the... Uhh... Attack using a portion of her Authority drawn from the portal that is the stone
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    The Megalith is described to be a calender showing the past and present. From the way it is described, it sounds more like a TV screen that can show you anything that has happened, or is happening. And if it is a portal to her authority, VS destroying it sounds bad for Quetz. Kosmos is also explicitly said to be a miniature world multiple times, whereas the same does not apply to the megalith.
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  12. February 27th, 2020, 03:02 PM #125132
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    Kosmos is a miniature world because Hephaestus inscribed a miniature world into it

    Now I'm kinda sad Nasu didn't have the Piedra do something cool like being able to bring out the previous textures of Measoamerica
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  13. February 27th, 2020, 06:43 PM #125133
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    I mean ultimately Kosmos broke blocking VS, so I don't think that if it's possible to use it as a shield that Quetz would want to.
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  14. February 27th, 2020, 07:09 PM #125134
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    But Kosmos was just one world

    Piedra del Sol has five!
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    Can't argue with that logic I guess.
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  16. February 27th, 2020, 11:44 PM #125136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    But Kosmos was just one world

    Piedra del Sol has five!
    But isnt Piedra so fragile that the servants were yelling at Ritsuka to break it? Doubt it could resist VS if a normal human can smash it.
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    Yeah Piedra del Sol has a massive target on its back.
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    Archer Ishtar vs Ruler Astraea. Without command seals and Ishtar being able to use your NP Gugalanna Strike.
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