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    Least Favorite? I might be hated on this idk but it's Sanson for me and mostly because of his lore. His lore pretty much straight describe him as a hypocrite, corrupt nobleman living in a luxury while executing people in which being found guilty enough to be executed. It's even emphasized by him being in Lawful Evil alignment but has one of his skills giving him bonus damage against evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adramoelech View Post
    Least Favorite? I might be hated on this idk but it's Sanson for me and mostly because of his lore. His lore pretty much straight describe him as a hypocrite, corrupt nobleman living in a luxury while executing people in which being found guilty enough to be executed. It's even emphasized by him being in Lawful Evil alignment but has one of his skills giving him bonus damage against evil.
    That wasn't the impression I got from Sanson at all. He distributed medical care to people free of charge and invented the guillotine specifically to make executions less painful for the victim. It was obviously a dirty job, but Sanson was only killing people who were condemned anyways. It's not like they would've been spared if he'd stilled his hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adramoelech View Post
    Least Favorite? I might be hated on this idk but it's Sanson for me and mostly because of his lore. His lore pretty much straight describe him as a hypocrite, corrupt nobleman living in a luxury while executing people in which being found guilty enough to be executed. It's even emphasized by him being in Lawful Evil alignment but has one of his skills giving him bonus damage against evil.
    Not really, Sanson isnít what you could consider an arstricat. For one his family werenít lords, they had no peasants or lands. They had an occupation, one which was given to the first Charles Sanson who was a soldier who was appointed the position of royal executioner by the King, which would be past down through his children. The royal executioner did tend to be well off, that Sanson could go to a university and had past times with music, but that would be the same if they were doctors, it was their job. The social stigma of being a executioner was pretty bad tho, everyone hated them. Sanson was kicked out from his preschool just because his father was a executioner. Which was why he went to university in hopes of becoming a doctor tho thanks to circumstances he had to take up his family job even when he was against it. Sanson didnít enjoy his work as a executioner but it was a role he had to do because no one would do it. He has no control who he gets to kill and why, thatís the courts job and he canít go against them, thatís how government works. They were wealthy because of their job but I wouldnít say he live off like the Nobles whose wealth they just have because they do.
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    Iunno. I don't think i have a Servant that i dislike in particular. I think Saber Gilles was kind of meh and i like to compare Fate Tesla and Steampunk Tesla so there's that i guess

    Or maybe Sieg since hes a Caster now

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    I see. So the wealth of Sanson comes from his job as an executioner which is a job he must do, and that he garnered hate from the people for it and he has no choice for other jobs hmm, so he isn't really bad then. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    That wasn't the impression I got from Sanson at all. He distributed medical care to people free of charge and invented the guillotine specifically to make executions less painful for the victim.
    Just to clear this up, he didn't invent the guillotine, it was literally a bloke called Guillotin. He was however a strong advocate of its use as he found executions to be quite torturous and wanted the make them as quick and painless as possible.


    That aside, I'm not sure who I'd pick for the servant I like least. There's some designs I don't like, some backstories I'm not struck on and some power sets I'm not happy with, but no servant has a bad enough combo of all three to make me dislike them. In general though, I'm not a huge fan of when servants adapt modern culture too readily, like Kintoki or Dumas. Some adaptation is obviously required to function, but when the only thing marking Kintoki's appearance as the guy from Japanese myth is when he breaks out the axe, it feels a little off to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Just to clear this up, he didn't invent the guillotine, it was literally a bloke called Guillotin. He was however a strong advocate of its use as he found executions to be quite torturous and wanted the make them as quick and painless as possible.
    Thanks for the correction. Looks like I got a bit mixed up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Just to clear this up, he didn't invent the guillotine, it was literally a bloke called Guillotin. He was however a strong advocate of its use as he found executions to be quite torturous and wanted the make them as quick and painless as possible.


    That aside, I'm not sure who I'd pick for the servant I like least. There's some designs I don't like, some backstories I'm not struck on and some power sets I'm not happy with, but no servant has a bad enough combo of all three to make me dislike them. In general though, I'm not a huge fan of when servants adapt modern culture too readily, like Kintoki or Dumas. Some adaptation is obviously required to function, but when the only thing marking Kintoki's appearance as the guy from Japanese myth is when he breaks out the axe, it feels a little off to me.
    So do you think an Iskandar level of adaption is ideal? He readily embraced modern culture and all its trappings, but he kept his core values of conquest and kingship from his own time and his own life.

    Also, I'm not particularly a fan of Raikou because she has the Vajra, which should rightly belong to an Indra Pseudo-Servant, and I am just annoyed that the Hindu Gods are synchretized to the Shinto Gods and not the other way round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    So do you think an Iskandar level of adaption is ideal? He readily embraced modern culture and all its trappings, but he kept his core values of conquest and kingship from his own time and his own life.
    Yeah, Iskandar seems more or less on point. Even the things he took on board from modern culture are largely coloured by his ideals, like his interest in conquest games, parading his plunder and getting trousers so he can walk among the people without arising suspicion.

    Kintoki seems to have gone entirely towards a modern punk/gangster sorta outlook, and Dumas is just a weirdo, but upon reflection, that's probably a similar vein to Iskandar in that being a compulsive liar and jackass, he's just taken ideas from the modern era to inflate his image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Yeah, Iskandar seems more or less on point. Even the things he took on board from modern culture are largely coloured by his ideals, like his interest in conquest games, parading his plunder and getting trousers so he can walk among the people without arising suspicion.

    Kintoki seems to have gone entirely towards a modern punk/gangster sorta outlook, and Dumas is just a weirdo, but upon reflection, that's probably a similar vein to Iskandar in that being a compulsive liar and jackass, he's just taken ideas from the modern era to inflate his image.
    Was Dumas like that in real life? I don't think so, and I think the whole crass boor portrayal of him in FSF kind of insults the real thing. That and I'm not sure if FSF Dumas is even black, which the real one was.

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    Alexandre Dumas, the French 18th century writer who wrote the Three Musketeers, was black?

    Okay, that's news to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Alexandre Dumas, the French 18th century writer who wrote the Three Musketeers, was black?

    Okay, that's news to me.

    Well, I
    He was a 19th century author, and yes, he was black, and his father was a black French officer in Napoleon's army who was also denied a pension later in life or something, and thus he actually was extremely bitter towards Napoleon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Was Dumas like that in real life? I don't think so, and I think the whole crass boor portrayal of him in FSF kind of insults the real thing. That and I'm not sure if FSF Dumas is even black, which the real one was.
    About the last thing, I've seen art of SF's Dumas that have him with vaguely dark skin, but others where he's white as snow. Are they any official arts of him in color, or is it just a fanon thing?

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