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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    Undo all the genderblends. Except maybe Artoria who I can live with.

    Less anime-ness. I like how Achilles looks, but you have to admit his design is damn ridiculous. I squealed a little inside when Chiron pinned him down by the scarf, punishing him for his dumb anime outfit. In Achilles' case the armor is fine, but get rid of the scarf and green hair.

    More armor all around. Proto Cu does this which is good, but in general too many characters who should have armor don't. Diarmuid, Hector, Astolfo, etc. I don't mind much if the armor's personalized, just make it culturally accurate.

    And more clothing all around for most GO original females and Nero.
    Don't Cu, Diarmuid and Shisshou wear full-body thighs instead of armor because Celtic warriors used to fight naked and with their bodies painted?
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    Exactly. Also, the source materials of every hero are always there to read or research, the appeal of Fate is they particular take on them, and the goofy designs dont avoid for you to know the original legend and apreciate it. For example, i know Cu Chulainn didnt wore a blue spandex, but thanks to Fate i know about Cu Chulainn

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    Quote Originally Posted by King of Padoru View Post
    Don't Cu, Diarmuid and Shisshou wear full-body thighs instead of armor because Celtic warriors used to fight naked and with their bodies painted?
    There is a pop culture image of them doing so. Actually only a few Celtic tribes (certain Cisalpine Gauls, I believe) are historically said to have fought naked, and the bodypaint belonged to Britons before they were Romanized. If you read the Irish epics, the Gaels normally fought in a tunic and armors of iron (probably mail), leather and/or linen, sometimes in complex layers and pieces.

    Personally, I would like to see more of the heroes designed in such a way that more reflects the periods they come from because as a history geek I like the notion of bringing together heroes from disparate times and places, and what that might look like. Not necessarily historically accurate, but at least bearing the same relation to their periods as, say, Alexander's design bears to Classical Greece - you can see that it's inspired by that period. When the characters wear modern or even futuristic-looking comic book-type costumes, for me it hampers the sense that we're seeing ancient legendary figures.
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    TBF considering how servants work if there is a cultural assumption that Irish heroes will be naked or otherwise wearing body revealing attire this would actually be reflected in how they presented when summoned.
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    I know; I just wanted to dispel any illusion that that was historical. If one wants to play to the image without the character actually being naked, a pair of short Gaulish breeches and actual bodypaint would suffice for Cu and the other Irishmen IMO. Maybe the same plus some kind of minimalist top for Scathach.
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    I've mentioned this before, but I'd completely redesign Beowulf away from his "Tyler Durden-ness". Not the only example, but it's the one that first jumps to mind.

    In general, I agree with You: leave Arturia alone, but reverse all other genderbends and just use actual female characters from myth and legend.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSeaDragon View Post
    This. Let the politically correctness to the west. Im totally fine with Fate going mad with anime Goffyness
    None of what he said has anything remotely to do with "political correctness".
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    He Was a Good King (a Fate/Stay Night one-shot) - A short exploration of Beowulf's character as a hero and a king.

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    Give Cu Proto Cu's outfit and call it a day tbh

    Maybe without the shoulderpad.

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    @Spoony

    i actually like the cureent Beo design, but dislike the overly meme aspects of his character.

    how would you change his design?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    how would you change his design?
    Something closer to his design in Zemeckis' "Beowulf" would be my preference, with his initial stages being wild, even barbaric, and him slowly growing more regal with each ascension. Alternatively, if he absolutely must be a Tyler Durden reference, at least trade his jeans for some more appropriate Norse pants.

    Or, if you want to go full meme, take visual cues from Cristopher Lambert's 1999 "Beowulf" movie.

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    Heh, now I want them to make a Vercingetorix Servant based on Lambert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    i actually like the cureent Beo design, but dislike the overly meme aspects of his character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    Give Cu Proto Cu's outfit and call it a day tbh

    Maybe without the shoulderpad.

    i like the shoulderpad, lol


    But really, i would not redesign anyone. Yeah, maybe i would not mind give jack more clothes ( her cloaked look is good) , or Altemiya being less try hard , blackbeard more serious or Boudica more warrior ish, but maybe someone else enjoys them, and why take it away form them? If you dont like a design, there will be always others that you will like, and if you dont like most of them, well, maybe this franchise is not for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikewl View Post
    Fix Wu and Nezha

    Why does TM hate China
    Shocking that a Japanese company hates China

    But hey at least it's not Korea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikewl View Post
    Fix Wu and Nezha

    Why does TM hate China
    I like Wu. As for Nezha, we need more lotus motifs and/or dudous... Keep the genderbend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    Shocking that a Japanese company hates China

    But hey at least it's not Korea
    Yeah there's not a single korean HS, big hmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GundamFSN View Post
    Give Jack some cloth.
    Give Sanzang some cloth.
    Give Shuten some cloth.
    Give Jalter Lily some cloth to cover her bra.
    Give Abigail proper witch cloth past her 1st outfit.


    Demiya's gold dust engraving is weird af I don't get it. It's disturbing. Also fix his lip and mouth.
    I don't care how, fix Chiyome.
    Basically this plus changing raikou’s body proprtion so it doesn’t creep me out everytime i see it.



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    The only thing Raikou needs is some Vitamin D, Berserker Raikou is too pallid but otherwise perfect.

    Lancer Raikou is beyond perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    I dunno'. For me a big part of the appeal of Fate is seeing myth and history figures mixed up in a blender with goofy anime tropes. Taking that away would make it a lot less fun IMO. Also Achilles is a cocky bastard who (in the version of the story Nasu went with) was 99% invulnerable except for a weakpoint hardly anybody knew about. It's totally in-character for him to wear a showy impractical outfit.
    That's...completly understandable, actually. Completely realistic designs would get kinda dull. Although I maintain I'd like more cultural accuracy in the designs.

    In Achilles' case I'm fine with his armor it's just the carrot features...eh I like how it looks so I shouldn't complain...

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    Beyond human you mean.

    She's not even a case of a design that i feel is turning the fanservice dial too much like some other character, she just flats out creep me out. Lancer raikou especially, she seriously disturbs me whenever i see her. It feels like i'm seeing some sorta weird alien pretending to be human. Like she's not so much out there that i disassociate her to a human, like say with ivan, but she also doesn't look quite human. Being in that weird zone is what makes me uncomfortable seeing the raita art of her, a bunch of fanarts are fine though and i have no real major qualms about the designs themselves.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    The only thing Raikou needs is some Vitamin D, Berserker Raikou is too pallid but otherwise perfect.

    Lancer Raikou is beyond perfect.
    Is that a euphemism?

    Also, Raikou's design is horrible. It's like some alien Entity tried to replicate a human but didn't really get us, so created some uncanny-valley style abomination.

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    Raikou’s design is FINE but Raita’s art makes her look like a purple ostrich so people telling me she’s Hot Sexe is......lol

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