Devil/Angel's Food Cake [Fate/]{oneshot/lemon}

[Zurvan]

I dont know what you kids are trying to do here but

STOP RUINING PORN

keep this shit up IRUN you're good

[Rafflesiac]

I'm a teacher. It's in the job description.

...You don't get paid enough for this, man.

[RoydGolden]

No, it's not as cut-and-dried as that, but you're the one creating the false equivalence. Saying "the fiction we consume helps construct our beliefs and personalities to an extent" is a far cry from saying "the fiction we consume molds us against our will", which is what you're implying.

Obviously fiction affects us in some way, but not necessarily how you're implying.

For instance, I've even heard of cases where some teen girl actually came to understand consent better from reading clearly labelled rape fantasy fanfic, because it clearly highlighted (through tagging) that forcing/pressuring someone into sex was actually rape rather than just a normal, expected part of a sexual encounter. Superficially tamer but still problematic erotica (like the Twilight saga, say) can actually be much more dangerous because it smuggles its dubious content in as normal and romantic, whereas at least something like IRUn's fic makes no bones about the fact that its content is (literally and figuratively) fucked up.

Now that I've written it out, it's kind of the same logic in the Nasuverse for somebody like Angra Mainyu qualifies as a Heroic Spirit in the first place. "Clarifying good by committing evil" and all that.

[SpoonyViking]

I was never discussing this fic specifically. In fact, I defended it exactly on the grounds that it's clearly labelled, so anyone who reads it knows beforehand they're going to read porn which probably features questionable things. I was addressing exactly the general normalisation problem which helps "problematic erotica", for instance, "smuggle its dubious content as normal and romantic" in the first place.

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...You don't get paid enough for this, man.

Truer words have rarely been spoken.

[RoydGolden]

I was never discussing this fic specifically. In fact, I defended it exactly on the grounds that it's clearly labelled, so anyone who reads it knows beforehand they're going to read porn which probably features questionable things. I was addressing exactly the general normalisation problem which helps "problematic erotica", for instance, "smuggle its dubious content as normal and romantic" in the first place.

I can't disagree with that.

[warellis]

IRUN, how did you hit upon the idea for this lemon?

Do you plan on doing more lemons using Ahnenerbe?

[ItsaRandomUsername]

It just kind of farted into existence, and probably not but who really knows? Options open, etc.

[warellis]

It just kind of farted into existence, and probably not but who really knows? Options open, etc.

Well I do hope to see more stuff come out someday, because a lot of your ideas have sounded very interesting.

And with the fanfiction section having slowed down so much, something new from an established author here is great.