What do you think about some of the Type-Moon fans?

[Marmadillo]

Where do I buy it? Ebay? Amazon.jp? All sell it at like 200+. Or are you talking about the PSP?

omg, that's like 500 quartz

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Ιf the developer refuses to release an officially translated version despite knowing people are playing with an unofficial one for more than a decade now, I take it as tacit endorsement to just read the unofficial one.

That's my view on it at least.

That's definitely not Type Moon's view on it.

[RoydGolden]

That's definitely not Type Moon's view on it.

I wasn't aware TM ever commented on that. Link?

[Deathhappens]

That's definitely not Type Moon's view on it.

Of course it's not *legally* their view on it, because that would legitimately jeopardize their intellectual property; on the other hand, you don't see them handing DMCA's left and right like certain other groups (coughKingRecordscough), do you?

[Arashi_Leonhart]

I wasn't aware TM ever commented on that. Link?

http://typemoon.com/copyright

Of course it's not *legally* their view on it, because that would legitimately jeopardize their intellectual property; on the other hand, you don't see them handing DMCA's left and right like certain other groups (coughKingRecordscough), do you?

They're like ten guys, they don't have time for that shit.

But there's no tacit acknowledgement of a fan translation. They know one exists but you're going to be in for a surprise if you think a foreign company knows where to find everything in another language.

[RoydGolden]

http://typemoon.com/copyright

Thanks.

[Historia]

They're about the same as any other fan from any other fandom.

[Deathhappens]

http://typemoon.com/copyright



They're like ten guys, they don't have time for that shit.

But there's no tacit acknowledgement of a fan translation. They know one exists but you're going to be in for a surprise if you think a foreign company knows where to find everything in another language.

Eh? I know TM isn't some entertainment industry giant, but there's no way they're handling all these IP's with just ten guys. Hell, just the staff we know about number almost that many. I think a ballpark of around 50-60 is closer to the mark, half that at minimum.

And if they actually wanted to pursue copyright infringement claims, it's not like they'd have to try all that hard. All the music, LP's and videos on YouTube, for one; they could be taken down if someone from TM's legal department so much as sneezes in that general direction. Taking down the unofficial patches themselves would probably be harder and not worth the effort in the long run, but they haven't put ANY effort in that direction, at least not yet.

I mean sure, maybe tacit agreement is a summer dream on my part, but at the very least they appear to regard the whole thing with typical stony 'ignore gaijin' indifference.

[Tobias]

So recently on some discord chat I was being called a "secondary" by a certain user for liking trying to roll for Skadi in FGO. Apparently that user was rather salty due to Shiroumasa not being the anniversary servant. Then I googled this "secondary" thing, apparently it used to applies to the anime only watchers back then. But what does it actually mean and what constitutes of a person being a "secondary" or "primary"?

About TM stuffs I've consumed, I'm an EOP so until today I only read like translated VNs and NA FGO, but in like two months ago, I tried to read fan translations on the internet and people's discussions on FGO story but never actually participating in one. I'm not sure whether I must learn Japanese in order to become "primary" or stuff but back then when UBW anime is out people on anime social media/forum consider me as one of the more knowledgeable user about Fate series. Also what do you think about this kind of fan? Or this hierarchial thing? I mean, I'd like to add my knowledge about Type Moon and it seems that I've missed out a lot for not reading untranslated thing?

Sorry if it's rude or something, I never intended to be so.

Just remember

These are just simple fans

these are people of the internet

the common clay of the new western fanbase

you know

...morons

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Eh? I know TM isn't some entertainment industry giant, but there's no way they're handling all these IP's with just ten guys. Hell, just the staff we know about number almost that many. I think a ballpark of around 50-60 is closer to the mark, half that at minimum.

Well then congrats on thinking in the wrong ballpark.

[Kotonoha]

Of course it's not *legally* their view on it, because that would legitimately jeopardize their intellectual property; on the other hand, you don't see them handing DMCA's left and right like certain other groups (coughKingRecordscough), do you?

One of my RN patches got DMCA'd. Though I doubt it was by TM themselves.

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I remember that time Mashin Eiichirou found Ragnar's Himuten scanlation and was like "this is illegal and I don't like that it exists but I'm impressed this guy got like half the references"

[Rafflesiac]

Wait what

Post link to reaction please

[Deathhappens]

Well then congrats on thinking in the wrong ballpark.

I'm sorry, but if TM is handling all their work with just ten people, then those ten dudes are the most overworked dudes on the planet, even for Japanese standards.

[forumghost]

I'm sorry, but if TM is handling all their work with just ten people, then those ten dudes are the most overworked dudes on the planet, even for Japanese standards.

Even more overworked then Waver???

[Iceblade44]

I'm sorry, but if TM is handling all their work with just ten people, then those ten dudes are the most overworked dudes on the planet, even for Japanese standards.

Well TM is mostly just do the creative stuff, you have the various anime studios and DW to handle the mechanical part of it. Still not much, but makes sense since TM was originally a doujin circle

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Even more overworked then Waver???

Not Waver, CasGil

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

Not Waver, CasGil

Cas!Gil never had to deal with Flatt, and that is far worse than three Goddesses and Tiamat.

[Iceblade44]

Yes but Waver never died from overwork

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

Yes but Waver never died from overwork

Not yet, he hasn't. Between Reines, Flatt, and the smokes, it's happening sometime soon.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

I'm sorry, but if TM is handling all their work with just ten people, then those ten dudes are the most overworked dudes on the planet, even for Japanese standards.

A recent bio for Nasu and Takeuchi confirmed that if you actually count the named people that aren't freelancers in association with the circle and legit employees, it's like a dozen guys past the other writers and artists of the circle.

And I don't think "all their work" is the sort of stuff you're thinking considering heavy lifting is done by, you know, the production and development companies that projects like FGO or Extella run through.

[Spartacus]

Meh.

I spend the money buy a figure I can look at thank you very much.

To each there own I suppose.

Not having both IRL and in-game smh