I don't see the narcissism
I don't see the narcissism
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Now I can answer better.
Now reading that sentence makes me realize that no, in no way I meant 'sexism is as bad as rape' but don't diminish something that has a lot to do with the other and deserves rejection.
Ghost, if you miss the point you won't make it clearer by quoting. I said 'I ackowledge my flaws of the things I like, but you should as well work on that before turning a blind eye or apologizing those flaws', instead you rather start topics (one of the many) attacking other's people likes and stating invented interviews because 'my ship is not as bad as yours'.
As for the rest of the post, as I stated before I'm not feeling like starting a big discussion of this specially knowing the fans in this forum. I know what I like, what I support, it's not for the looks. The works show us that Gilgamesh, being as toxic as he is, wants from Saber something that he really doesn't want. He thinks, only for himself, that there's no room for anything else than taking and enjoying because it has always been him. But Unlimited Codes states it... Corrupts her thinking it was what he wanted (what he was looking for in Fate Route) he thought he would be happy with the result, in the end it wasn't what he wanted for her.
Gil is all about that, possessivenes over his garden and his people but people are like object, they don't last so they are not important but they have, in fact, have some individual value by their true nature, good or bad, sometimes catching a glimpse on that and enjoying it. The same for the people as a whole, the mankind, knowing the outcome will result in destruction he knows and he accepts that, he will even laugh at it. So no wonder Saber caught his interest, Saber searched for self destruction on many levels and Gilgamesh loved that part of her and still wanted a better ending for her. Not talking about that shitty speech at the end of the Fate Route but I have already make clear my opinion.
So, regarding OP's post please go cheack Zero's LN and let you friend enjoy her things. You are no friend if you take that away from her. Enkidu will not approve.
Also just taking a look to the rest of the people that just reacted to someone defending something they like in a topic made specifically to attack (Lord forgive me). By them do you mean ME because I don't see anyone else wasting their time here trying to explain something as clear as water. Anyway, in the same manner I don't see why people need to waste their efforts trying to convince me that what I like is wrong, and bad and ugly but here you are.
I like the ugliness in my fantasies that's why they remain fantasies.
Again, maybe its just me, but they just seem really similar in personality; both want to give their everything to everyone, selfless to a fault, they ignore their own well being, they're sometimes neglectful of the feelings of others, though not by choice. They're both swordsmen. Etc etc.
Their only major difference is that Shirou knows not to blame everything on himself, something that Saber struggles with until the Fate Route.
But again, maybe its just me.
I'm the kind of person that thinks relationships like Edward x Winry or Yusuke x Kieko are really well down, despite niether focusing on them being in an actually romantic relationship.
When will people realize that all saber ships are bad because saber is bad
I'm not a Saber is best girl person, but I must defend Saber from accusations of being bad. She's not, at least IMO.
when will people realize ships
Localizationing stuff
he says he gave immortality to the snake in F/SN, but then it turned out he actually dropped his guard while bathing and the snake ate the herb when he wasn't looking
That is just allegorical language.
He never sleeps. He never dies.
Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.
Yes he does. He treats Mitsuzuri and even Taiga the same way, despite the many, many beatings the latter has administered him over the years.
It's also why I just smh at people yelling "sexism!!" at him. He has a mindset stuck in the last century, sure, but he's really not "get back in the kitchen" guy. He does acknowledge women can fight, he just doesn't want to let them because muh chivalry.
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Narcissism: excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one's physical appearance. If everyone who identified and admired similar traits on someone else was a narcissist, half of all romantic fiction would be odes to narcissism. But hey, I personally found Fate's romance to be the superior one (despite not being a Saberfan), so I'm biased.
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
Plenty of us are just Master Baiters.
My Fanfics. Read 'em. Or not.McJon01: We all know that the real reason Archer would lose to Rider is because the events of his own Holy Grail War left him with a particular weakness toward "older sister" types.